Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread jimlux
On 11/18/20 7:15 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 11/18/2020 5:27 PM, jimlux wrote: The proposed mitigation technique relies on tracking the rapid gain variations in the radiometer due to 1/f noise and correcting them by generating a baseline state in the first amplification stage of

Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Attached is the block diagram of the receiver in essence an amplifier for which the effective input is gated/chopped on and off by turning the amplifier input FET on and off. Bruce > On 19 November 2020 at 16:15 "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" > wrote: > > > > On 11/18/2020 5:27 PM, jimlux

Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 11/18/2020 5:27 PM, jimlux wrote: The proposed mitigation technique relies on tracking the rapid gain variations in the radiometer due to 1/f noise and correcting them by generating a baseline state in the first amplification stage of the low noise amplifier (LNA). The proposed 1/f noise

Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread jimlux
On 11/18/20 4:59 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: I suspect that, whatever this is, only applies to 1/f mechanisms specific to THz, based on the last sentence.  One of my former clients did a PhD at Stanford on 1/f noise and his dissertation certainly had no magic bullets to mitigate 1/f

Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
I suspect that, whatever this is, only applies to 1/f mechanisms specific to THz, based on the last sentence. One of my former clients did a PhD at Stanford on 1/f noise and his dissertation certainly had no magic bullets to mitigate 1/f noise. There is some frequency, which I am fairly sure is

Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
There is a paper from the univ of Twente in NL that seems to indicate that it takes some time in an open FET until the traps in the channel build up, so switching the FET off in a regular way might be an advantage. I stumbled across it when I was seeking input for my ultra-low-noise chopper

Re: [time-nuts] Survey grade antennas

2020-11-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you dig into the data on the antennas …. ( they are fully tested and doccumented …) The Novatel design does a *very* good job. Indeed they are *much* better than an old style giant choke ring design. Normal list price is roughly 10X what that listing shoed. Similar antennas normally

Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Its just another variation on the principle of the Dicke radiometer. In their case the amplifier input device is turned off periodically by modulating its gate bias. https://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/faculty/reising/pdf/journals/Ogut_et_al_T-TST_2020.pdf Bruce > On 19 November 2020 at 12:38

Re: [time-nuts] Survey grade antennas

2020-11-18 Thread jimlux
On 11/18/20 2:49 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: Stu wrote: >> The usual auction site has a few true survey grade antennas for a very good >> price. Search for Novatel GPS-703-GGG. These cover all three frequency >> bands (L1, L2, L5), which is still unusual to find in surplus. Bob wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:13:00 + (UTC) Bruce Hunter via time-nuts wrote: > Can anyone who subscribes to these transactions report on this?  I dropped my > subscription. > In this letter, a novel 1/f noise mitigation technique is presented to > improve the receiver 1/f noise performance of a

Re: [time-nuts] Survey grade antennas

2020-11-18 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Stu wrote: >> The usual auction site has a few true survey grade antennas for a very good >> price. Search for Novatel GPS-703-GGG. These cover all three frequency >> bands (L1, L2, L5), which is still unusual to find in surplus. Bob wrote: ….. and now they all seem to have been sold If

[time-nuts] Flicker Noise Reduction

2020-11-18 Thread Bruce Hunter via time-nuts
Can anyone who subscribes to these transactions report on this?  I dropped my subscription. In this letter, a novel 1/f noise mitigation technique is presented to improve the receiver 1/f noise performance of a 670 GHz receiver. Time domain 1/f noise corrected samples are compared with samples

Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Navicom GPSDO

2020-11-18 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
I see that Mark Sims examined this Navicom GPSDO in March 2019 (EEVblog). https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/navicom-rcgd-m-gpsdo/ gb == Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:52:08 -0600 From: Greg Beat To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Surplus Navicom GPSDO Surplus Navicom RCGD-M units

Re: [time-nuts] Survey grade antennas

2020-11-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi ….. and now they all seem to have been sold :) Thanks for the heads up !!! Bob > On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Stewart Cobb wrote: > > The usual auction site has a few true survey grade antennas for a very good > price. Search for Novatel GPS-703-GGG. These cover all three frequency >

[time-nuts] Survey grade antennas

2020-11-18 Thread Stewart Cobb
The usual auction site has a few true survey grade antennas for a very good price. Search for Novatel GPS-703-GGG. These cover all three frequency bands (L1, L2, L5), which is still unusual to find in surplus. (No connection to seller, just passing along a good deal.) Cheers! --Stu