[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One would guess that the GPS module in the device is something fairly normal. Motorola modules showed up in the early versions of this gizmo. Bob > On May 9, 2021, at 9:00 PM, John Miller via time-nuts > wrote: > > Tom, > Thanks for sharing - this looks very interesting. I don’t think it

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread John Miller via time-nuts
Tom, Thanks for sharing - this looks very interesting. I don’t think it’s quite identical, though. The unit I got was available in 232 and 422 (the one coming to me is 232), and the data sheet for the PCTEL lists it as a 12 channel receiver, whereas the 58534A is an 8 channel. Once it’s in my h

[time-nuts] Re: The amazing $5 timestamper, part 2: discovering a bug in my signal generator

2021-05-09 Thread Jeremy Elson
Hi Tobias, In the latest round of experiments in which the clock resolution was 6ns, I could not detect any instability; the timestamps of the 1pps signal being fed into my timestamper had identical low order bits for 250,000 seconds (until I stopped the experiment). In this case the 10mhz referen

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread Tom Van Baak
The equivalent hp integrated timing antenna was the 58534a. You may find its documentation helpful: http://leapsecond.com/museum/hp58534a/ /tvb On 5/8/2021 6:36 PM, John Miller via time-nuts wrote: I did mean this unit in particular, specifically I’m really interesting in turning up the pin

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread Hal Murray
> Generally speaking once power and ground are found everything else more or > less falls in place. Can you figure out power/ground with an ohmmeter? Or perhaps a battery, resistor, and voltmeter? Is the shell of the connector directly connected to one of the pins? -- These are my opinions

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
paul swed writes: > I have used some pctel antennas and they have been very good over the > years. (Very good = works). The model number at least gives you a hint if > RS 422 or 232. But if you can't find any further detail you are stuck with > one option. If you can figure out how to po

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread paul swed
John Totally agree on the power and ground. Good to know you like to take them apart if required. On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 2:09 PM John Miller via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > I take everything apart, so that much is a given - I just also like to > have as much original documenta

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread John Miller via time-nuts
I take everything apart, so that much is a given - I just also like to have as much original documentation as I can, especially if there are any special initialization or configuration commands. Whatever I find I will document for anyone else who gets one of these in the future. Generally speaki

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread paul swed
Back to the problem for a minute. I have used some pctel antennas and they have been very good over the years. (Very good = works). The model number at least gives you a hint if RS 422 or 232. But if you can't find any further detail you are stuck with one option. Open it up and look. Most of these

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Mike Ingle writes: > Hi, in reading between the lines, are you saying that in practice, the > tempco of twisted pair is worse than the tempco of coax? I seriously doubt it. The change in coppers conductivity will not make that kind of difference in propagation time until the cables are

[time-nuts] Re: PCTEL Timing Antenna with integrated GPS Receiver?

2021-05-09 Thread Mike Ingle
Hi, in reading between the lines, are you saying that in practice, the tempco of twisted pair is worse than the tempco of coax? Wouldn't any install where that was critical include a loopback to calibrate out cable delay? On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 8:27 AM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Doug