[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-21 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Another tidbit ….. The antennas are each actively tuned (they are *very* narrow band). As the wind blows, you can watch them adjust to the change in “shape”. Very cool ….. Bob > On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:41 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > Robert DiRosario writes: > >> I really

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-21 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Robert DiRosario writes: > I really wish NIST didn't add the BPSK modulation to WWVB. Increasing > the transmitter power would have been a lot better, but I'm sure that > would have cost a lot more then just changing the modulation. One does not simply increase the transmitter power

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-21 Thread ew via time-nuts
I remember in the early 90's I used a HP receiver and a Tracor M 100 with no problem in Miami. Junghans came to Miami to test their clocks and watches using a R handheld device for accurate signal evaluation. They had determined that Miami was the most distance from the 60 KHz transmitter in

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-21 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I’d bet that OCXO was made in the 48th week of 1990. Bob > On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Robert DiRosario wrote: > > I found that very late the other night. I don't think that's it because the > physical construction is different. I've attached some photos. I think this > Time Code

[time-nuts] Re: Efratom LPRO-101 Rubidium question....

2021-08-21 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If the TBolt is locked up and has stayed locked up for 24 hours it should be pretty accurate. Ideally you would like to be locked to at least 4 sats at all times for best accuracy. Lady Heather is your friend when it comes to checking this sort of thing. How good is “pretty accurate”? At 8

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-21 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The WWVB transmitters are military surplus. I suspect they got them at a very low cost to NIST. The proposal they kept floating was to set up a second LF time signal for the east coast. That way they could do better coverage over the entire county without going to higher power. My guess is the

[time-nuts] Efratom LPRO-101 Rubidium question....

2021-08-21 Thread mp...@clanbaker.org
Hello Time-Nutters-- I am working on building a downlinking AZ/EL tracking dish set up to receive the 8.2 GHz telemetry from the Suomi JPSS polar orbit meteorological/environmental satellite.  The receiver seems to be working OK but it periodically appears to slowly drift frequency by 300 Hz to

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-21 Thread Robert DiRosario
This will just be a backup clock in my amateur radio station. I already have a Truetime XL-DC and a XL-AK, both have GPS receivers that give IRIG-B and 1PPS outputs, and drive a couple of IRIG-B clocks. I would guess the GPS time signal will be more accurate and precise then WWVB, and both

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-21 Thread Azelio Boriani
I used to test cheap GPS antennas with the network analyzer, using a bias-tee to feed 5V power to the antenna and to avoid damaging the VNA RF input (even if the RF input is 50V tolerant). On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:14 PM Dana Whitlow wrote: > > I love Dan's idea, with one caveat. The

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-21 Thread Tom Holmes
BTW, Skipp, there is a slim chance that a non-amplified antenna is a DC short, so wise to check that before you try to power it up from a PS or a receiver.. Tom Holmes, N8ZM -Original Message- From: Dana Whitlow Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 12:13 PM To: Discussion of precise time

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-21 Thread Dana Whitlow
I love Dan's idea, with one caveat. The transmission through a powered-down LNA is an unknown, probably even to the manufacturer. Thus comparing output signal levels with power on or off is pretty meaningless. But his test with power on should be a great way to get some clue that the antenna is

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-21 Thread Daniel Schultz
> Should I be able to "see something" on or around the GPS frequency other > than what I suspect will be something visual looking like a noise/pulse > source/signal? You could try sweeping a harmonic from a signal generator across the antenna passband, this would be visible on the spectrum