[time-nuts] Re: Oncore UT+ EEPROM -

2021-11-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
k1...@att.net writes: > I have an Oncore UT+ for a project and found that it works fine after > updating the almanac and getting a 3D fix but it never stores my location > coordinates in its EEPROM. Each time I power up it shows all zeroes in Lat, > Lon, Alt for about an hour or so until

[time-nuts] Oncore UT+ EEPROM -

2021-11-29 Thread k1jos
I have an Oncore UT+ for a project and found that it works fine after updating the almanac and getting a 3D fix but it never stores my location coordinates in its EEPROM. Each time I power up it shows all zeroes in Lat, Lon, Alt for about an hour or so until it finds satellites. With Lady Heather

[time-nuts] Re: Seeking advice: Is this the right way to check very short term (below 1s) stability?

2021-11-29 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Erik, Den 2021-11-28 kl. 19:19, skrev Erik Kaashoek: As the collection of frequency sources and counters in my home lab is growing I'd like to understand the performance of the frequency sources. Two different GPSDO do help to check long term stability. But the Rubidium frequency standard I hav

[time-nuts] Re: Lowest noise (phase noise and ADEV) method to achieve 10 MHz signal from 5 MHz input

2021-11-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
For those interested, Dave PA5DOF and your's truly are working to get the doubler implemented that Luciano has on his website. The first PCB prototype is in and has been built and works OK. Some minor tweaks/fixes will be added to a V0.2 PCB. If there is interest I can share the Gerber files.

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-11-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi All these devices *can* be sensitive to the environment. What degree of sensitivity they have is a function of how “nutty” one went on this or that design. It also is a function of things like cost, size, and power consumption. The target market for things like the 5071 is a “we can afford i

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-11-29 Thread Lux, Jim
On 11/29/21 1:57 AM, Hal Murray wrote: j...@luxfamily.com said: And a lot ofsources may have a low flat spot in the curve, but it eventually trends up. Except for primary standards like Cs beam. What's magic about "primary standard" or "Cs beam" that keeps the ADEV from trending up? Their ulti

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-11-29 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Hi, Den 2021-11-29 kl. 10:57, skrev Hal Murray: j...@luxfamily.com said: And a lot ofsources may have a low flat spot in the curve, but it eventually trends up. Except for primary standards like Cs beam. What's magic about "primary standard" or "Cs beam" that keeps the ADEV from trending up?

[time-nuts] Re: Lowest noise (phase noise and ADEV) method to achieve 10 MHz signal from 5 MHz input

2021-11-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The PLL will have the same 20 log N issue plus a number of other problems. The big question is: what are you after? If you need something below -175 dbc / Hz far removed, what is the application? There may well be better ways to do this or that. If you are after -125 dbc / Hz at 1 Hz, tha

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A on ebay

2021-11-29 Thread paul swed
Poul-Henning Always fun to take a look and some very attractive starting bids. But then as time goes by it will get crazy as always. Then $400 or so in shipping and heavens knows what customes will be. Oh well nice to look. Thanks Paul On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:28 AM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > -

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-11-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Hal Murray writes: > > j...@luxfamily.com said: > > And a lot ofsources may have a low flat spot in the curve, but it > > eventually trends up. Except for primary standards like Cs beam. > > What's magic about "primary standard" or "Cs beam" that keeps the ADEV from > trending up? Prima

[time-nuts] Re: Lowest noise (phase noise and ADEV) method to achieve 10 MHz signal from 5 MHz input

2021-11-29 Thread Mike Feher
I see you are using two for the phase noise test setup (a common way of doing it). I am curious about the phase matching between units. From the results it appears they must be pretty well matched, but did not see any actual data. Since it is over a very narrow frequency BW it should be no problem.

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-11-29 Thread Hal Murray
j...@luxfamily.com said: > And a lot ofsources may have a low flat spot in the curve, but it > eventually trends up. Except for primary standards like Cs beam. What's magic about "primary standard" or "Cs beam" that keeps the ADEV from trending up? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. __

[time-nuts] Re: Lowest noise (phase noise and ADEV) method to achieve 10 MHz signal from 5 MHz input

2021-11-29 Thread timeok
you can use this: http://www.timeok.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/high-performance-frequency-doublerv1-31.pdf Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti tim...@timeok.it www.timeok.it Da "Matt Huszagh" huszaghm...@gmail.com A time-nuts@lists.febo.com Cc Data Sun, 28 Nov 2021 19:29

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A on ebay

2021-11-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
ew via time-nuts writes: And there's a 5071A "for parts only" too if anybody feels like an adventure: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154720557764?hash=item2406105ac4:g:e~8AAOSwTP5hoOG3 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RF