[time-nuts] Re: HP Z3801A project update

2022-01-24 Thread ed breya
The new boost converter is working great for external DC power input. Yesterday I put the Z3801A guts back into the carcass, after being out of commission since October when I started the latest round of additions and changes. The bench supply I've been using doesn't have enough oomph to do col

[time-nuts] Re: Is this the right way to compare the short term accuracy of two frequency counters?

2022-01-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Tom Van Baak writes: > To determine the noise floor of a counter it's best to use different > sources, independent in frequency and also independent in phase. That > rules out dividers or multipliers. The phase needs to "sweep" across a > wide range. A neat way to do this: Clock

[time-nuts] Re: Is this the right way to compare the short term accuracy of two frequency counters?

2022-01-24 Thread Tom Van Baak
Erik, See some plots of testing a 53132A counter in time interval mode: http://leapsecond.com/pages/53132/ Yes, using stdev (rms) is ok. You can also use ADEV and expect to see a line with slope of -1; the noise of the counter is the value at tau 0 [*]. You can also use TDEV and it should be

[time-nuts] Re: Is this the right way to compare the short term accuracy of two frequency counters?

2022-01-24 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi First off, yes, standard deviation is a pretty good way to look at what a counter is doing. Reducing the answer to time ( = picoseconds ) is usually the easy way to look at the data. Next up, counters have a *lot* of things that impact what they do. The slew rate of the input signal is a big

[time-nuts] Is this the right way to compare the short term accuracy of two frequency counters?

2022-01-24 Thread Erik Kaashoek
For some project I'm trying to establish the short term accuracy of a frequency counter versus the gate time. As using the Allan Deviation for this type of measurement did lead to extensive discussion over the validity of using ADEV for measuring the short term performance of a counter I tried to

[time-nuts] Re: My AC measurement project & question

2022-01-24 Thread Chris Hastreiter
I work in the distribution grid protection equipment business, and our products include measurement capability up to the 16th harmonic for both the voltage and current measurements made on the line. For classic grid protection primarily the fundamental and second harmonic are used, but the higher