[time-nuts] Re: GPS failed

2022-07-11 Thread Andy Talbot via time-nuts
There is a 3G/4G Supplementary Downlink allocation at 1492MHz in some countries. Close enough to cause problems. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 14:40, paul swed via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Skipp > I am aware at least in the US that there is the

[time-nuts] Re: GPS failed

2022-07-11 Thread Andy Talbot via time-nuts
to be called out to identify the problem. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 14:37, Lux, Jim via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > On 7/10/22 4:19 PM, skipp Isaham via time-nuts wrote: > > Hello to the Group, > > > > I'd like to get some op

[time-nuts] Re: Knowing when the PPS signal is locked to the satellite.

2022-06-22 Thread Andy Talbot via time-nuts
The status flag in the $GxRMC message tells you if the unit is 'locked' The PPS appears more-or-less when that flag goes from 'V' to 'A' Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 at 14:23, Dave via time-nuts wrote: > I am using a NEO-6M to provide a PPS signal

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread Andy Talbot via time-nuts
Do you mean "even submultiples"? ie. even division ratios. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 28 May 2022 at 21:11, Matthias Welwarsky via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Only frequencies that are even multiples of the internal crystal frequ

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Andy Talbot via time-nuts
Google (other search engines are available :-) DISHAL Filter Tuning Very neat and quick way to tune up a filter using just return loss. Doesn't even require a VNWA. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 16:40, Bob kb8tq via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > H

[time-nuts] Re: Effect of temperature on cheap puck style GNSS antennas?

2022-05-12 Thread Andy Talbot
"During sunrise" Isn't it more likely to be due to changes in the ionosphere during sunrise/set that causes the timing discrepancies. Any changes to the antenna / LNA due to temperature will affect the reception of all satellites so should cancel out. Andy www.g4jnt.com On T

[time-nuts] Re: RAGA - was Re: Re: Low Phase Noise70 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-02 Thread Andy Talbot
stable in frequency, and of course very close to 1575MHz where patch resonates. One such faulty antenna I had once jammed every other GPS receiver in the house - although they were all the old 2nd generation type receivers of two decades ago Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 19:27, Lux, Jim

[time-nuts] Re: One-night experiment: empirically verifying that the west coast power grid is actually interconnected

2022-03-09 Thread Andy Talbot
e out, in order to be able to push out more energy in a hurry when, say, frequency drops too much. The operators of such systems will have to be mandated or incentivised to run backed off at all times in case their extra capability is needed for emergencies. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 9 Mar 2022

[time-nuts] Re: Phase coherence with 2X GPSDO

2022-03-08 Thread Andy Talbot
eceiver to give the phase shift. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 14:55, Bob kb8tq wrote: > HI > > > On Mar 8, 2022, at 2:31 AM, ed breya wrote: > > > > Just an interesting observation. Last night, shortly after I wrote about > my dual GPSDO system, I decided

[time-nuts] Re: Testing GPSDOs

2022-02-21 Thread Andy Talbot
beat note, it's quite feasible to have several instances of that software open at the same time, all fed from the same soundcard source. Set each instance to a different FFT resolution, one wide, one narrow and others as you like, and watch what happens Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 21 Feb 20

[time-nuts] Re: Testing GPSDOs

2022-02-20 Thread Andy Talbot
/10MHz_Reference_Source_Stability.pdfand http://g4jnt.com/ShortTermStabilityLeoBodnarGPSDO.pdf I used synths I had to hand, but anything that will multiply up your test and reference signals to a pair of frequencies separated by a few kHz, so you can look at the beat note using soundcard software. Andy

[time-nuts] Re: 10 MHz TCXO periodically jumping 20 mHz up and down

2022-02-19 Thread Andy Talbot
At that time the synth was set to one frequency and the code went into sleep , so any buffering resistors etc would have served no purpose. The TCXO really was hopping over four frequencies in a PN way at intervals of a little under one second per hop. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 at

[time-nuts] Re: 10 MHz TCXO periodically jumping 20 mHz up and down

2022-02-19 Thread Andy Talbot
unded like a familiar modulation on a synth that wasn't programmed to generate it. There were four tones hopping in a (presumably pseudo) random manner, and the WSJT mode I was going to use, JT4, had... four tones that hop around. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 at 10:19, Erik

[time-nuts] Re: Garmin GPS 25 Module

2022-02-09 Thread Andy Talbot
sing other module types, GPRMC became GNRMC to cope with Glonass etc. so that was another change needed. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 15:49, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > In terms of upgrading the GPS module(s): > > You might want to look at just *what* NMEA messages are being

[time-nuts] Garmin GPS 25 Module

2022-02-09 Thread Andy Talbot
SDO. All beacon details at scrbg.org Andy www.g4jnt.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-le...@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] Re: electronics question or how not to fry my raspberry pi

2022-01-29 Thread Andy Talbot
Those diodes are so robust that a PIC connected the wrong way to a 5V 1 Amp PSU was protected by all these diodes conducting in parallel and current limiting the PSU. The PIC appeared to have survived (although I chucked it anyway, just in case) Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 18

[time-nuts] Re: My AC measurement project & question

2022-01-23 Thread Andy Talbot
n the PIC keep it to safe limits. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:44, Dave B via time-nuts wrote: > On 23/01/2022 08:30, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > > Stick with the transformer. The use of a capacitive divider is > predicated on the line waveform always

[time-nuts] Re: Where do people get the time?

2022-01-07 Thread Andy Talbot
rates on landlines; on my mobile network '123' gets voicemail. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 09:18, Bryan _ wrote: > , and only after asking those on the "party line" to hang up, only > those over 55 would know what I am talking about. > > -=Bryan=-

[time-nuts] Re: Where do people get the time?

2021-12-27 Thread Andy Talbot
In the UK, the BT speaking clock, apparently, is still operational.But at a cost of 50p per minute, I doubt it gets much use. I'm not going to waste 50p by dialling 123 from the landline to test it still goes, and it doesn't work on mobiles. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 27 Dec 202

[time-nuts] Re: Why do have OCXO a Vref output? (was: help reviving Trimble UCCM-LPS GPSDO)

2021-12-25 Thread Andy Talbot
ng in mind this was in a temperature controlled environment is not as bad as a Zener in open air Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 16:26, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Being also a bit of a volt-nut, I played a bit with the Vref output > from some of my OCXO's and must sadly repor

[time-nuts] Re: Why do have OCXO a Vref output? (was: help reviving Trimble UCCM-LPS GPSDO)

2021-12-23 Thread Andy Talbot
I've always assumed this is because they need to know the reference is clean and under the OCXO manufacturer's control if it's to meet specs. If the user had to supply the reference there's no knowing how clean it is. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 17:47,

[time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Andy Talbot
any signal will have dropped below the noise and cannot be considered to be "transmitted" Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 16:11, wrote: > Although not advisable a search of the Internet will turn up several. > There is a well know Raspberry PI version. The range of th

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-12-02 Thread Andy Gardner, ZL3AG via time-nuts
Don't give up now, Jared! You must be so close to getting that puppy running correctly. On 2/12/21 9:16 pm, Jared Cabot via time-nuts wrote: Well, yay... I put the OCXO back in the 5065A, and got a good 2nd Harmonic reading. So I started going through the alignment procedures and somehow I

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-11-30 Thread Andy Gardner, ZL3AG via time-nuts
On 1/12/21 5:03 am, Jared Cabot via time-nuts wrote: Hopefully I can find something in Akihabara Yeah yeah, don't rub it in! :^) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-le...@lists.febo

[time-nuts] Re: Lowest noise (phase noise and ADEV) method to achieve 10 MHz signal from 5 MHz input

2021-11-30 Thread Andy Talbot
Your push-pull doubler is much nicer than my full-wave rectifier with Schottky diodes http://g4jnt.com/10MHzDist.pdf Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 15:42, Wilko Bulte wrote: > For those interested, Dave PA5DOF and your's truly are working to get the > doubler imple

[time-nuts] Re: Seeking advice: Is this the right way to check very short term (below 1s) stability?

2021-11-28 Thread Andy Talbot
I forgot the URL http://g4jnt.com/10MHzDist.pdf Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 18:39, Andy Talbot wrote: > The way I look at short term stability is to multiply up to microwave > frequencies then mix the two and look at the resulting beat note. The > popular ADF435

[time-nuts] Re: Seeking advice: Is this the right way to check very short term (below 1s) stability?

2021-11-28 Thread Andy Talbot
instability in real time. An example of the techniques used on a range of 10MHz reference sources can be found here (I used a different Fract-N synth with a smaller setting grid possible than teh ADF4351 can give, but the same idea applies) Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 18:19, Erik

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-11-28 Thread Andy Talbot
I would imagine there are already several caesium clocks on board the ISS, anyway. Don't forget there is a velocity component in relativistic time shift, as well as gravitational, so using a moving platform like an aircraft or the ISS complicated things a lot Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 2

[time-nuts] Re: Project Great

2021-11-27 Thread Andy Talbot
top. Tom, ah I see, so your delta H is much smaller than I'd assumed. Coincidently the same as the height of Ben Nevis ASL - for which I calculated ~20ns Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 20:04, Hal Murray wrote: > > j...@luxfamily.com said: > >> Was just specul

[time-nuts] Re: Leap indicator set to 1 !

2021-11-27 Thread Andy Talbot
A leap second is due 31 December. I'm sure I've seen reference to a "leap second pending" flag in some reference to time keeping somewhere. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 15:23, Steven Sommars wrote: > FYI. > > At 2021-11-27 00:00:00 UTC many public

[time-nuts] Project Great

2021-11-27 Thread Andy Talbot
in g = 9.81 m/s² and h = 4300m for Mt Rainer gives an expected value of 4.7 * 10^-16. Over 2 days, 2 * 86400s, that would be 81 ns in total, four times your value What am I missing? Was just speculating what Ben Nevis at a mere 1340m height might offer And

[time-nuts] Re: QM10 Quartz chronometer

2021-11-26 Thread Andy Talbot
ideal, but could maintain a crystal more on frequency that just open to the the air temp. Perhaps used on a watch crystal thay would work more effectively. Not sure where you'd get them from now, though. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 16:46, David G. McGaw wrote: > But not in

[time-nuts] Re: function generator

2021-11-22 Thread Andy Talbot
from 10MHz, four 74AC390 CMOS counters will do it Or am I missing some fundamental issue here? Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 18:20, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: > > > Am 22.11.21 um 18:31 schrieb Erik Kaashoek: > > Some time ago I needed a output at 10,00.001Hz s

[time-nuts] Re: function generator

2021-11-22 Thread Andy Talbot
choose your buffer length, then make sure you get one that allows an exact integer division from your clock. If you can't choose a buffer length and are forced to take a fixed value, then frequency generation errors are inevitable. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 17:14, Jeremy

[time-nuts] Re: function generator

2021-11-22 Thread Andy Talbot
Could the Rigol be using a DDS / NCO lookup approach to its frequency generation? In which case you'll be subject to rounding errors on the DDS increment, whose maximum magnitude will be dependent on the register length. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 16:53, Jeremy Elson

[time-nuts] Re: NTP servers

2021-11-22 Thread Andy Talbot
up to one minute after they happened. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Hal Murray wrote: > time.isan...@gmail.com said: > > but I am curious to see if I could sync up with some of you guys who > seem to > > have some pretty cool set-ups. > > GPS has tak

[time-nuts] 5/10MHz Doubler and Distribution

2021-11-11 Thread Andy Talbot
ownload is given. Andy www.g4jnt.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-le...@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] Re: 1 pps

2021-11-11 Thread Andy Talbot
to be aiming at -100dBc - but that woul dbe impossible to measure with any test equipment I have. Even seeing -80dBc was a challenge. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 00:53, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: > > > Am 10.11.21 um 23:56 schrieb B Riches via time-nuts: > > Any ideas on

[time-nuts] Re: Ryzen mobos with serial port for Garmin GPS?

2021-11-05 Thread Andy Talbot
Well, yes. No one would rely on a windows PC for timing accuracy, surely This is what I did to get a fully coherent timing and frequency locked system for a narrowband LF receiver using an FTDI interface to a PC. http://g4jnt.com/Coherent_LF_Receiver.pdf Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 5 Nov 2021

[time-nuts] Re: Ryzen mobos with serial port for Garmin GPS?

2021-11-05 Thread Andy Talbot
lel access that 'looks' to the PC like a serial port. Never tried this myself, but a number of manufacturers have implemented PC interfaces using this route. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 18:32, Andy Talbot wrote: > Use FTDI USB serial ports - you can't

[time-nuts] Re: Ryzen mobos with serial port for Garmin GPS?

2021-11-05 Thread Andy Talbot
ed in, a new COM port is set up. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 18:26, Alec Teal wrote: > A friend of mine who lives and breaths this stuff (I wont tell you what > he does - but suffice to say he's authoritative) basically said to me on > something about serial ports that

[time-nuts] Re: constructing a moon base

2021-09-29 Thread Andy Talbot
When things get that big they could put a series of location satellites around the Moon, so it has its own ... err... not GPS, but MPS perhaps? Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 15:31, Chris Howard wrote: > My employment involves the design and manufacturing of construct

[time-nuts] Re: ammonia, cesium, masers, etc.

2021-09-20 Thread Andy Talbot
n hammered into an oval can support TE01 modes reliably enough if you need to suppress polarisation rotation. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 18:14, Andy Talbot wrote: > What's the exact resonance frequency of ammonia? To as many sig figures > as it's been calculated

[time-nuts] Re: ammonia, cesium, masers, etc.

2021-09-20 Thread Andy Talbot
What's the exact resonance frequency of ammonia? To as many sig figures as it's been calculated. Googling just seems to throw up "approximately 23.8GHz" Andy www.g4jnt.com On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 18:10, paul swed wrote: > Well at the very next MIT flea I will gra

[time-nuts] Re: in-ground clock room

2021-09-09 Thread Andy Gardner, ZL3AG via time-nuts
So the 2 things you're after are thermal insulation and vibration insulation? Digging can be expensive, and you have to worry about water table in many locations. How about the thickest concrete water tank you can find, plonk it in a nice location, spray layers of polyurethane foam over the

[time-nuts] Re: Query about List and about 10 MHz Distro

2021-08-29 Thread Andy Talbot
Hence my observation that balanced twisted pair might be a better solution than coax for 10MHz distribution Removes all possibility of ground loops Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 at 15:22, Dana Whitlow wrote: > I believe that a significant problem in my case was not leakage thro

[time-nuts] Re: Query about List and about 10 MHz Distro

2021-08-28 Thread Andy Talbot
raft of ICs support the medium, from RS422 to CAN bus drivers and receivers. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 at 17:51, AC0XU (Jim) wrote: > I am hoping that you can help me about a couple of things: > > 1) My time-nuts summaries sometimes appear unformatted and unreadable.

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-20 Thread Andy Talbot
3m dishes. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 22:33, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: > > Am 20.08.21 um 22:14 schrieb skipp isaham via time-nuts: > > > > Hello to the Group, > > > > I picked a box of used (removed from commercial radio APRS type > > servic

[time-nuts] Re: HP5061 offline management.

2021-08-06 Thread Andy Talbot
fully pumped and ready to go. I replaced the NiCd battery pack which was completely dead when I got the unit with a LM317 and float charged 24V lead acid batteries. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 at 23:26, paul swed wrote: > Was talking with another time-nut on the best way to use th

[time-nuts] Antenna return loss

2021-07-29 Thread Andy Talbot
So there's your good source impedance for the splitter 20 - 30dB RLoss without even considering the head amp itself. Even several metres of UR43 should have enough loss to constitute a decent match. Andy www.g4jnt.com ___ time-nuts mailing li

[time-nuts] Re: Subject: Re: Tbolt

2021-07-23 Thread Andy Talbot
I get a proper picture Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 at 18:41, Dave B via time-nuts wrote: > From: Gerhard Hoffmann > > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Tbolt > > > I can only offer an opened Morion MV-89A. > > The 10 MHz version is really 5 MHz + doubler. > &g

[time-nuts] Re: Thunderbolts ...

2021-07-20 Thread Andy Talbot
s@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe > >> send an email to time-nuts-le...@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there. > >> > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.

[time-nuts] Re: Thunderbolts ...

2021-07-20 Thread Andy Talbot
If you're interested in the Short Term Stability of the LB GPSDO. http://g4jnt.com/ShortTermStabilityLeoBodnarGPSDO.pdf Andy www.g4jnt.com On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 18:12, Bob Darlington wrote: > Same. He probably got 250+ requests in short order. I'm curious how the > L

[time-nuts] Re: GPS Splitter for L1, GNSS, etc?

2021-06-02 Thread Andy Talbot
isolated by the diodes from all the other receivers. The receiver delivering the highest antenna supply voltage would 'win' and end up supplying the active antenna via its diode in the splitter. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 10:14, shouldbe q931 wrote: > On Wed, J

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox NEO-M8T-0-10​as a LO question

2021-03-31 Thread Andy Talbot
More to do with amateurs using narrow band modulations, and the LB GPSDO being moderately good close in. Phase noise out beyond a few kHz goes more or less unnoticed on SSB Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 13:35, Dana Whitlow wrote: > Chris, > > It may be that the modul

[time-nuts] Re: Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS

2021-03-11 Thread Andy Talbot
> > G3PLX did something similar, synchronising his GF clock to GPS. But > wanting to make no modifications to the pendulum, IIRC he placed a > solenoid near the pendulum and used eddy current loss to slow it down. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > > > > <http:/

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency -again

2021-02-24 Thread Andy Talbot
Well, I do everything in PICs with a assembler, but you have a point. A flash memory chip is one route. An FTDI Vinculum and USB memory stick, another. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 14:05, Dan Kemppainen wrote: > Andy, > > Perhaps one of the little openlog units from

[time-nuts] Mains Frequency -again

2021-02-21 Thread Andy Talbot
long term record of mains timing error. You can download frequency from the Gridwatch site, but not timing. And I wouldn't trust integration over such extended periods to derive timing error. perhaps it's time to add a serial output to my monitor and couple up an old obsolete laptop

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency

2021-02-13 Thread Andy Talbot
y and that is flagged. It's caught up now Mains timing is now just 0.7 seconds fast - and 2s of that was over the last hour or two. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 11:12, Andy Talbot wrote: > I maintain a real time display of mains frequency, and the cumulative > timing

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency

2021-02-12 Thread Andy Talbot
It's still +47 seconds.Perhaps they'll correct over the weekend. Wind generation is high at the moment, contributing 13.64GW to the 34GW UK total demand (it it 22:100 as I write). Perhaps the high wind generation level is the reason for the extended high frequency session. Andy www

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency

2021-02-12 Thread Andy Talbot
Mine peaked at +50s earlier today, it may have gone higher but didn't see. Now down to +44s. There may be a longer term offset, since this monitor was set arbitrarily 265.3 hours ago, and who knows what the official offset was at that point Andy www.g4jnt.com <http://www.avg.c

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency

2021-02-12 Thread Andy Talbot
at audibly hums . Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 18:06, Lux, Jim wrote: > > Maybe.. you've got to condition the AC from the secondary side of the > transformer and use a pin to bring it in on, which requires at least 2 > or 3 passive components, and you alr

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency

2021-02-12 Thread Andy Talbot
in, pass it though a three stage RC filter then into the TMR1 input of a PIC 16F628 which has a Schmitt input at thresholds of 30% and 70% of the rails. , ie 1.5 / 3.5V so plenty of hysteresis. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 16:57, Adrian Godwin wrote: > I wouldn't be surp

[time-nuts] Mains Frequency

2021-02-12 Thread Andy Talbot
average? Andy www.g4jnt.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_cont

[time-nuts] Daft idea with the National Grid

2021-02-07 Thread Andy Talbot
2019 that caused frequency to drop below 49.5Hz and initiate automatic load shedding; that happened over a period of a couple of minutes but was a large scale problem. https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/publications-and-updates/investigation-9-august-2019-power-outage Andy www.g4jnt.com

Re: [time-nuts] "Q for dummies"

2021-01-26 Thread Andy Talbot
MRI machines use superconducting coils to generate a 1T magnetic field over a volume sufficient for a human body Andy www.g4jnt.com On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 21:47, Tom Holmes wrote: > I was told that one of the killers of superconductivity is magnetic > fields. I guess they '

Re: [time-nuts] "Q for dummies"

2021-01-26 Thread Andy Talbot
You could mention it is roughly equivalent to the number of swings you get for a weight on a rope before it stops swinging. Or something like that. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 13:14, Ole Petter Ronningen wrote: > Hi, All > > I am going to give a presentation to non-

Re: [time-nuts] Long Wave Radio-Frequency standard testing

2021-01-16 Thread Andy Talbot
e's a better write up in Jan 2021 edition of RadCom (RSGB Members' magazine) Andy www.g4jnt.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signat

[time-nuts] Parity Errors

2021-01-03 Thread Andy Talbot
day of week is simpler to visualise the error mechanism. Sunday is transmitted as zero, Wednesday as 3. Two adjacent bits corrupted, so it will pass the parity check. Andy www.g4jnt.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe,

Re: [time-nuts] Radio Controlled Clocks

2020-12-27 Thread Andy Talbot
icate the wrong time for 58 seconds after midnight - I don't care about that. Suppose I could do the GPS read and update at the :00 second point which would repair leap seconds for all but the 23:59:60 interval, but it 'felt wrong' to do that at the time of writing the code. Andy

Re: [time-nuts] Radio Controlled Clocks

2020-12-27 Thread Andy Talbot
Update. The Junghans Mega is approx 100ms late updating its display. And it's pretty cold, sitting in the outside shed so the LCD is a bit sluggish. It looks like the designers of that tried to do the job properly. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 14:54, Andy Talbot wrote: &

Re: [time-nuts] Radio Controlled Clocks

2020-12-27 Thread Andy Talbot
seems to get better reception out there. It's the only one that shows MSF outages as it updates every hour - and the battery seems to last forever! I never checked to see how close that is to GPS; if they implement proper timing or just a simple delay bodge. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 2

[time-nuts] Radio Controlled Clocks

2020-12-27 Thread Andy Talbot
ith round ones with hands.Anyone else using domestic MSF or DCF77 clocks who have observed this? Andy www.g4jnt.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo

Re: [time-nuts] HP5061 Cesium ion pump question

2020-12-02 Thread Andy Talbot
when mains went off. I replaced those only two weeks ago. The only thing I've never tried is calibrating out local magnetic field using Zeeman lines. Not having the Cs running continuously, I suspect this would be a pointless exercise anyway, and the loss of a few parts in 10^-13 don'

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO housings - Why copper and not iron/steel?

2020-10-30 Thread Andy Talbot
Actually, diamond has five times better thermal conductivity than silver, so is the most conductive element, although graphene is suspected to be better still. Andy www.g4jnt.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_

Re: [time-nuts] Mentorship needed in learning about Allan Deviation and variation.

2020-10-27 Thread Andy Talbot
pe of the curve at various places along the plot tells you the cause of the error in the system." Andy www.g4jnt.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-25 Thread Andy Talbot
en I = S1 + S2 - S3 - S4 Q = S1 - S2 - S3 + S4 at 1kHz sampling, centred on 1kHz tone See http://g4jnt.com/Coherent_LF_Receiver.pdf where the technique is used in a coherent LF receiver. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 02:17, jimlux wrote: > On 10/24/20 3:53 P

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Counter Choice

2020-10-22 Thread Andy Talbot
In days of yore + DOS, I implemented a GPIB control by bit-banging a parallel printer port. Those were the days Andy www.g4jnt.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <htt

[time-nuts] GPSDO Short Term tests

2020-10-19 Thread Andy Talbot
Hz wobble) and very definitely so at 24GHz and higher. Andy www.g4jnt.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] Droitwich Frequency Error

2020-10-18 Thread Andy Talbot
ven one that is 'supposed' to be corrected from 'time-to-'time' Or Is it? Andy www.g4jnt.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Spectrum Software Micro-Cap downloads

2020-10-03 Thread Andy
me free.) Lloyd Blythen wrote: ... it's under active development, AD supports it very > well, ... That is somewhat debatable right now. But it's hopefully improving. Regards, Andy ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Do ordinary clouds adversely affect GPS reception?

2019-10-23 Thread Andy
n a small change can put it over the top. Andy ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for Symmetricom system info: 105542-002A

2019-09-07 Thread Andy Gardner via time-nuts
Haven't been able to find anything so far. Can you post a hi-res pic of the front of the system please? On 7/09/19 10:17 am, Walter Shawlee 2 wrote: I recently got a rack shelf filled with Symmetricom black modules (PMM controller w/LCD display, GPS, PRS-RB Rb oscillator and PRS-XO ovenized

Re: [time-nuts] Building a DMTD/phase noise set in the 21st century

2019-08-24 Thread Andy Gardner via time-nuts
Attila, How would you rate the HP E1437A VXI ADC for this application? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] A Research Proposal

2019-07-08 Thread Andy Backus
separated by significant geographical distances. 180-degree phase reversals and three-phase transformations along the chain of information are easily distinguishable. Thanks for your interest. I hope some will accept the technical challenge of gathering data -- which is fairly minimal. Andy

[time-nuts] A Research Proposal

2019-07-04 Thread Andy Backus
disturbances such as rapid load changes or sudden generation adjustments, for example, it is quite possible harmonic ripples could be propagated through the system. Such effects could be observed by comparing phase data across significant distances within a distribution grid. Andy Backus

Re: [time-nuts] BG7TBL 10 MHz OCXO

2019-06-05 Thread Andy Backus
bout +/- 1 mHz Gravity effects (looking at the front panel) -- rotation 90 degrees counter clockwise causes a 5.8 mHz decrease in frequency rotation 180 degrees causes a 5.3 mHz increase in frequency rotation 90 degrees clockwise causes a 12.5 mHz increase in frequency A

[time-nuts] BG7TBL 10 MHz OCXO

2019-06-03 Thread Andy Backus
reversible) Andy Backus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time

Re: [time-nuts] Li Ion Battery for HP 5065A

2019-03-08 Thread Andy Gardner via time-nuts
Alternatively, buy a suitably spec'ed BMS PCB from your favourite online parts site and populate it with 18650 batteries recycled from "dead" laptop battery packs. Total cost will be in the double digits. On 9/03/19 11:14 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi For 100 to 120 AH at 13.4V you will pay in th

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Battery Chargers, and a fading idolization of HP

2019-02-10 Thread Andy Backus
Brings to mind two interesting numbers: I figured out when I was ten that it takes about 2 weeks to count to a million at one number/sec. Much later in graduate school I learned from an astronomer that a year has pi x 10^7 seconds. Andy Backus From: time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-25 Thread Andy
OK, now I'm sure the Dymec I mentioned earlier was not the same one as HP's Dymec. The Dymec I knew apparently got its name by condensing Dynamic Measurements Corp. to Dymec Inc. Also the one I knew was much more recent than HP's Dymec, which had been folded back into HP wel

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-24 Thread Andy
back then. We had designed them into our test equipment. I think the Dymec that made these, was located in Massachusetts, not California, so it might not be the same company even though they both made V-F converters and frequency measurement products. Maybe that was just a coincidence.

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Translation

2018-10-27 Thread Andy Backus
ovides the antenna current. I have found, as others have, that the frequency must be good to several Hertz. So I use a crystal controlled CMOS gate oscillator to generate the RF. Andy Backus WA2TND From: time-nuts on behalf of paul swed Sent: Saturday, Octobe

[time-nuts] WWVB Translation

2018-10-27 Thread Andy Backus
x27;t know yet if it also lights up the neighbor's house. I think I will investigate that question when (and if) they pull the plug in Colorado. But I am prepared. Not so much for my La Crosse Technology WWVB BPSK clock. I think it will get swamped out. Can't have everything,

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-09-06 Thread Andy Backus
. Also -- when the GlobalTop loses a fix it still puts out the RMC sentence, just without the lat and lon data. And the PPS immediately stops. I designed the parsing scheme to account for that. How long that reporting would continue I don't know. Andy B

[time-nuts] WWVB Translation/Simulation from GPS Data

2018-09-05 Thread Andy Backus
n the day of. Andy Backus From: time-nuts on behalf of Wayne Holder Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:01 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator I've reworked my WWVB Simulator so it can

Re: [time-nuts] Bicentennial GOES satellite clock

2018-08-13 Thread Andy Backus
A good sextant with a good operator can measure apparent altitude to 0.1 minutes of arc. The fastest apparent motion of objects in the sky due to rotation of the earth is 0.25 minutes of arc per second. So the best a sextant can do with time (assuming accurate astronomical tables and an exact

Re: [time-nuts] NIST

2018-08-13 Thread Andy Backus
WWV HF transmissions include a 100 Hz subcarrier that gives the info in cw format. For generating WWVB code I would suggest simply counting seconds to yield days -- the WWVB code takes the day number in the year. Leap year is easy. Just look up the DST start and stop. acb ___

Re: [time-nuts] NIST

2018-08-11 Thread Andy Backus
To answer Dana's question, there are many projects on the web (as Tom has pointed out), but very few, think, will answer the question in total. For the DYI person, I think a GPS module from Adafruit, an Arduino, and a down-and-dirty little transmitter like mine or the one in Tom's second link

Re: [time-nuts] NIST

2018-08-10 Thread Andy Backus
orientation of the device's antenna. So I have one WWVB receiver in a good place and key my little transmitter as a "translator" elsewhere in the house. Andy Backus From: time-nuts on behalf of Dana Whitlow Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:34 PM To

  1   2   >