With the new 5G hardware, we are seeing all manner of new interference, some of it quite broad-band.  A good antenna with sharp SAW filter may help, but not if the emmisions are in-band. Besides broad-band, there also can be 2nd harmonic emissions that cause interference.  We had this problem with an Iridium ground station (just above the GPS L1 frequency) for scientific balloon data that had a new cell installation placed nearby.  We had (and thankfully were able to) have the cell base station shut down while we were flying.

73,

David N1HAC

On 7/11/22 9:27 AM, paul swed via time-nuts wrote:
Skipp
I am aware at least in the US that there is the possibility of 5G
interference along with newer possible bands that 5G can use. I have read
several articles in a publication called GNSS.


Thats why I am using wwvb at 60 KHz. Humor intended.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 8:49 AM skipp Isaham via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Hello to the Group,

I'd like to get some opinions and war stories regarding GPS reliability at
high RF level and elevation locations.

Background:  Three different hill-top GPS receivers, all different types,
using
different antennas mounted on an outside fixiture, plain view of the open
sky,
all stopped working.

Test antennas were brought in and placed on a fixture well away from the
original antennas, the recevers went back in to capture and lock.

 From what I understand, the original antennas are what I would call
straight
preamp with no pre-selection / filtering.

The ordered and now inbound replacements are said to contain a SAW filter
system. It is the intent of the client to just place these "improved
antennas" in
to service and get on with life.

I would suspect a GPS antenna (and receiver) could be subject to RF
overload
or blocking, however, we're assuming nothing major has changed at the
site, nor
any nearby location.  One might think there are more GPS receivers being
pushed
out of reliable operation by the world around them, I'm just not hearing
those stories
from a lot of people using them (GPS receivers).

Any new install GPS receiver antenna ordered will/should contain some
pre-selection
to potentially avoid a problem, even some years down the road? Seems like
that's
where things are going... no more off the shelf, wide band, (hot)
preamplified GPS antennas
in busy locations?

Thank you in advance for any related comments and/or opions ...

cheers,

skipp

skipp025 at jah who dot calm
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