[time-nuts] Re: Time Signal Transmitter (low power)

2022-01-25 Thread rcbuck
Possibly something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SHGAEhnsYk&list=PL3XBzmAj53RlkM2_xRq2NodFjFtBrgzx0&index=11&t=1s Ray On 2022-01-25 12:11, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi The original idea was a transmitter with a 20m range. The “check the regs” are aimed at that sort of setup. For somethin

[time-nuts] Re: PPS latency? User vs kernel mode

2021-12-11 Thread rcbuck
Adam, Where is the PPS signal derived from? If from a GPS, what do you mean by processing on the PI? Do You update the seconds counter of the PI clock with each PPS? I have a NEO-6M connected to a STM32 custom board to drive six 2.3-inch, 7 segment LEDs. I use the PPS to kick the watchdog ti

[time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread rcbuck
Although not advisable a search of the Internet will turn up several. There is a well know Raspberry PI version. The range of the transmitters is only a couple of feet so if placed next to your clock it will work. Anything that would cover your entire house would certainly not be advised. The

[time-nuts] Re: NIST 60KHz message

2021-03-14 Thread rcbuck
Jeffry, Yes, the sync once per day is due to the Arduino software. The ES100 needs to be told when to start receiving the WWVB signal and when to go to sleep. You can modify the software to change the time and number of syncs per day. I would suggest you change it to 2am CA time. The daily sync is

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules

2021-02-13 Thread rcbuck
They reduced the price by 20% but they want $19.40 for shipping. I decided I didn't need the development kit. I ordered one of the AM WWVB kits back in early Nov and the shipping charge was only $4.50. Original Message Subject: [time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments

2020-11-01 Thread rcbuck
Thanks John. Ray, AB7HE Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments From: "John C. Westmoreland, P.E." Date: Sat, October 31, 2020 9:06 pm To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Ray, https://github.com/chris-elfpen/Teensy4WW

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments

2020-10-31 Thread rcbuck
Sorry Bob. I meant to address this question to Paul. "Things already accomplished by Chris in the wwvb AM receiver" Is there a link to the AM receiver? Curious as to what that looks like. Ray, AB7HE Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments F

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments

2020-10-31 Thread rcbuck
Bob, "Things already accomplished by Chris in the wwvb AM receiver" Is there a link to the AM receiver? Curious as to what that looks like. Ray, AB7HE Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments From: Bob kb8tq Date: Sat, October 31, 2020 11:4

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-10 Thread rcbuck
Paul, by going to high power mode I meant at the 200, 500, or 800 msec point of each second. Ray Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question From: Bob kb8tq Date: Fri, October 09, 2020 4:12 pm To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Hi I

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-09 Thread rcbuck
Paul, I was seeing a -10 dBm on the SA when they enter high power mode at night. At low power they are only a couple of dB above the nearby noise makers. But that is at the output of the last stage of my receiver. The WWVB signal was about 10-15 dB above the noise makers in my work shop. I don't kn

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-09 Thread rcbuck
Paul, Bob, I am not using any commercial receiver. I am building everything from scratch. The RF front end starts with a ferrite rod antenna feeding a differential first op amp followed by 5 stages of op amp filtering and amplification. When the last stage is fed to my spectrum analyzer (through a

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-08 Thread rcbuck
Paul and Bob, Thanks for the comments. I figured I wouldn't be able to get a 60 kHz signal anywhere near a WWVB receiver. I just wondered how bad the signal leakage from the divider IC would actually be. It is at a 5V logic level but I don't know if that means 5V of signal radiation. I was try

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-08 Thread rcbuck
Bob, I am using a ferrite rod antenna for the receiver. No outside antenna. Ray Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question From: Bob kb8tq Date: Thu, October 08, 2020 12:40 pm To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Hi A lot depends on

[time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-08 Thread rcbuck
I have read several different articles where the WWVB phase shift is eliminated by doubling the signal to 120 kHz. Several members of the list have built these units. Assume I build a circuit to double the incoming signal and use a schmitt trigger to get a 120 kHz square wave. If I then divide th

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-08-19 Thread rcbuck
Paul, You message came in just as I clicked Send on my message. If I change the MC34151 to a 7474 to synchronize the 60 kHz signal, does that mean the phase change always occurs on the zero crossing like WWVB? Ray Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-08-19 Thread rcbuck
Paul and Rodger, I used the actual transformer, YCL 20F001NG, and 1N4148 diodes like the schematic shows. I isolated the grounds on the mixer because Rodger had a note in the document saying he was picking up noise. I experimented with the 60 kHz drive level and increased it to 285 mV Pk-Pk, whic

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-08-19 Thread rcbuck
Paul, Yes, I built the d-psk-r per the schematic. However, I think I did not understand how it actually worked. I was expecting it to be able to duplicate the WWVB sine wave signal with the phase reversal present when the PM data bit changed from a 0 to 1 or 1 to 0. I have a 60 kHz sine wave going

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-08-18 Thread rcbuck
Paul, I was able to capture this with the scope. I believe the sharp downward spike may be when the dpskr 180 degree phase shift takes place?? Ray, AB7HE time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and f

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-08-17 Thread rcbuck
Paul, I finally got the WWVB d-psk-r board built. I have it connected to an Arduino UNO and to my NEO-6 GPS module.The GPS module has been re-programmed to 19.2k baud and only the GPRMC NEMA message is being sent. The MC34141 is running at 12 volts and I am using 620 ohm resistors to drive the tra

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB SDR discussion

2020-08-11 Thread rcbuck
> deriving exact time to way closer than a second from the signal To the average consumer if the clock is accurate to within a minute or so they are happy. The clocks also run on a RTC and only use WWVB to keep the RTC more or less accurate. The clocks are also only looking at the carrier level c

[time-nuts] WWVB SDR discussion

2020-08-11 Thread rcbuck
Does the La Crosse UltrAtomic clock actually use a crystal filter or do they digitally filter the signal? Has anyone ever looked inside of one of the clocks? Just curious. Ray AB7HE Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB SDR discussion From: Mark Haun Date: Mon, August

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-30 Thread rcbuck
Paul, I wasn't talking about putting the d-psk-r software on the Blue Pill board. The d-psk-r software will be on the Arduino board. What I was thinking of doing was putting a single NEMA message on the Blue Pill board. Then connect the UART transmit line to the Arduino in place of the GPS UART l

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-30 Thread rcbuck
Rodger, Thanks for the code and explanation. I will load it into an Arduino and connect one of my ublox modules to it. When I get the RF front end put together the emulator should give me a nice signal to look at on the scope. To feed my own data in I could program a Blue Pill board with a NEMA str

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-30 Thread rcbuck
So the $64 million dollar question is this. How do the La Crosse distributors sell the ULTRATOMIC clock for $35-$40. That means La Crosse's manufacturing cost is probably around $15-$20. Building a million clocks would get the cost down, but still. I'm sure there are a lot of transistors in the

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-29 Thread rcbuck
Paul, "The new de-psk-r I built has no raw wwvb outputs." What do you mean by raw? I have been thinking about how the phase shift could be detected in software instead of hardware. Could something like this maybe work: If a micro is able to detect the zero crossing of a sine wave it should be abl

[time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-22 Thread rcbuck
I'm not sure what I will use for the VCTCXO. I have a few different ideas to play around with. Testing when I have time over the next couple of weeks I may find a suitable solution. Ray, AB7HE Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions From: paul swed Date

[time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-22 Thread rcbuck
Thanks to all for the suggestions. I dug a ferrite rod AM radio antenna out of the box this morning. I have a box of 10 left over from the late 80s. It measures 0.950 mH so I will add some turns to get it to 1.5 mH which will be easier to resonate at 60 kHz. Then I need to build up the RF amp and r

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-21 Thread rcbuck
Paul, thanks for the suggestions. The top of the minute is a good idea. Since the first second is part of the sync pattern it will always be 0 and the phase would be 0. A differential opamp with one input from WWVB and the other from the local source fed to the STM32 would tell if the signals were

[time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-21 Thread rcbuck
I want to decode the WWVB time information using the BPSK information that is broadcast. I will use a STM32 to do the actual decoding of the bit stream. This is just an exercise in "can I do it?" as I know I can buy clocks for $30 that use the BPSK method. At one time you could buy an IC that outpu