Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 05.07.19 um 23:26 schrieb Poul-Henning Kamp: In message <28f942e8-b61d-4fa5-929d-923184828...@n1k.org>, Bob kb8tq writes: Energy flow is indeed inside the cable if things are set up and operating correctly. Please note in this context that *nothing* about lightning strikes works

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread jimlux
On 7/5/19 2:26 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <28f942e8-b61d-4fa5-929d-923184828...@n1k.org>, Bob kb8tq writes: Energy flow is indeed inside the cable if things are set up and operating correctly. Please note in this context that *nothing* about lightning strikes works the

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <28f942e8-b61d-4fa5-929d-923184828...@n1k.org>, Bob kb8tq writes: >Energy flow is indeed inside the cable if things are set up and operating >correctly. Please note in this context that *nothing* about lightning strikes works the way you would assume it does. Cables run

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The purpose of coax is to shield the signal. The outer portion of the cable acts to protect the inner part from stray signals in the environment. In a normal system, the outer braid is connected to ground. It is no different than a lot of audio cabling in that respect. Energy flow is

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Peter Vince
On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 18:01, WigglePig wrote: > If there are currents in the braid to upset then your antenna system is > not working as you might believe. > I was working on the simplistic assumption that for a current to flow, there must be a complete circuit, so the current flows down the

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Detlef Schuecker via time-nuts
Hi, > Plus as the pole moves in the wind (they all do) the cable can move > about inside, and if repeatedly impacting the inside of the pole over > time, that will damage the cable. You fix the cable inside the pole by applying three cable ties as a triangle in regular intervalls. The loose

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread WigglePig
If there are currents in the braid to upset then your antenna system is not working as you might believe. > On 5 Jul 2019, at 10:46, Peter Vince wrote: > > Thank you all for your replies. A case of a little knowledge being a bad > thing in my case. But at least I was aware of a potential

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Dave B via time-nuts
On 05/07/2019 06:01, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> A new contact, whose background is in computer programming rather than >> RF, is getting into accurate GPS positioning, and has been tapping me for >> any knowledge I might have. I persuaded him to get the new Ublox F9P >>

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Peter Vince
Thank you all for your replies. A case of a little knowledge being a bad thing in my case. But at least I was aware of a potential problem to be considered! :-) Thanks again, Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-05 Thread Leo Bodnar
In a (almost) ideal coaxial cable (almost) *all* RF electromagnetic field is inside the cable. Unlike ladder balanced transmission line where it is everywhere else in the universe. Leo > From: Peter Vince > sure of the best advice to give him. I'm sure I heard that you should > never drop the

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-04 Thread W7SLS
Hi Peter, >> you should > > never drop the coax down the middle of your support-pole, as the conducting > pole will mess up the characteristics of the cable by affecting the > currents in the outer braid. Well, that is true for ’twin-lead’ (“TV antenna wire”), but is not an issue for coax.

Re: [time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-04 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 04.07.19 um 22:43 schrieb Peter Vince: Hello all, A new contact, whose background is in computer programming rather than RF, is getting into accurate GPS positioning, and has been tapping me for any knowledge I might have. I persuaded him to get the new Ublox F9P receiver and also a

[time-nuts] Aerial coax downlead placement

2019-07-04 Thread Peter Vince
Hello all, A new contact, whose background is in computer programming rather than RF, is getting into accurate GPS positioning, and has been tapping me for any knowledge I might have. I persuaded him to get the new Ublox F9P receiver and also a "proper" dual-band antenna - albeit from