Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-12-13 Thread EMMANOUIL MANTZARAS
: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B Jim Is there any hope. I would believe so. CS tubes are pretty tough. As Scott says HV supplies but you measured those and they appear good as you say. So its a knock down drag out battle. You have nothing to loose so dig in. I wonder if the SRD may have popped. But its funny

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-12 Thread paul swed
Its a hot wire ionizer (I know thats the name.) so its a heater more then a cathode. But in reality its goal is to filter CS atoms. That is it directs one state of the CS stream that did not flip from the microwave interaction to the getter and the other that did to the collector and detector.

[time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-08 Thread cdelect
Jim, The filament is a hot wire ionizer that functions to ionize the atoms in the beam so that the mass spectrometer will be able to steer them to the electron multiplier. It is a thin ribbon and not likely to be reattached once it burns open. Cheers, Corby

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-08 Thread jimlux
On 11/8/19 2:25 PM, paul swed wrote: Hello to the group. A few years back Skip took apart a 5061 CS tube. Took the best pictures with detail that has ever been posted. I really learned about the internal details from his effort. Tom kindly found the links re-posted here.

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-08 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group. A few years back Skip took apart a 5061 CS tube. Took the best pictures with detail that has ever been posted. I really learned about the internal details from his effort. Tom kindly found the links re-posted here.

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-06 Thread paul swed
Yes it’s terminal sorry On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 1:05 AM ed breya wrote: > Yes, I've heard of this method before. It may help to study the internal > structure of the filament and its support, and orient the tube to get > some gravity assistance while trying the procedure. I recall that > someone

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-04 Thread ed breya
Yes, I've heard of this method before. It may help to study the internal structure of the filament and its support, and orient the tube to get some gravity assistance while trying the procedure. I recall that someone here put up a nice pictorial of the innards of a shot, dissected Cs beam tube

[time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-04 Thread AC0XU (Jim)
Time Nuts- Thanks to John, Corby, Skip and anyone else I missed who offered help. John got it in one. The hot wire ionizer is open, as measured at the D connector coming out of the tube. I understand that this is a terminal condition. Too bad for me. BTW, I found this note on

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-04 Thread ew via time-nuts
I would look at ionizer and Ionizer circuit. In the past I would see ion current increase when ionizer turned on. Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/3/2019 11:40:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, paulsw...@gmail.com writes: Jim Is there any hope. I would believe so. CS tubes are pretty tough. As

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-04 Thread vilgotch1
I had a 5061A that had those symptoms. It had been running in Cs off mode for a long time and the Ion Pump current looked like zero on casual inspection but was actually barely perceptibly just off the zero mark. I took that to mean that the ion pump had kept the vacuum in the tube very well. The

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-04 Thread John Miles
> This 5061B was working fine until a recent power failure, after which the unit > would not come on line (alarm light stayed lit). > > Major symptoms now... Have you checked the continuity of the hot-wire ionizer? It may have opened up like a light bulb filament when the power came back on.

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-03 Thread paul swed
Jim Is there any hope. I would believe so. CS tubes are pretty tough. As Scott says HV supplies but you measured those and they appear good as you say. So its a knock down drag out battle. You have nothing to loose so dig in. I wonder if the SRD may have popped. But its funny the ion pump is 0.

Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-03 Thread Scott McGrath
Have you checked the HV supplies? Content by Scott Typos by Siri > On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:04 PM, AC0XU (Jim) wrote: > Time Nuts- This 5061B was working fine until a recent power failure, after which the unit would not come on line (alarm light stayed lit). Major symptoms now: Beam I ;

[time-nuts] Dead 5061B

2019-11-03 Thread AC0XU (Jim)
Time Nuts- This 5061B was working fine until a recent power failure, after which the unit would not come on line (alarm light stayed lit). Major symptoms now: Beam I ; Second Harmonic; Ion Pump Supply are all 0 on front panel. All other front panel readings are normal. (except for