Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-27 Thread Petr Titěra
On 25.04.2020 12:19, Hal Murray wrote: David Taylor said: With those recommendations, and noting the delays in RPi I/O (at least in the earlier RPi cards where Ethernet is over USB), I would suggest that an OCXO is overkill. No reason to deviate from the Raspbian OS. That's an important poin

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-27 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Montag, 27. April 2020 08:47:45 CEST Hal Murray wrote: > You could also use the Pi for the microcontroller. There is an API to the > Kernel timekeeping routines. Try man ntp_adjtime. There are 2 knobs. One > is to adjust the speed of the clock, aka correct for the drift. The other > is to a

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-27 Thread Andreas Kempe
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 03:19:54AM -0700, Hal Murray wrote: > > David Taylor said: > > With those recommendations, and noting the delays in RPi I/O (at least in > > the earlier RPi cards where Ethernet is over USB), I would suggest that an > > OCXO is overkill. No reason to deviate from the Raspb

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-27 Thread Hal Murray
> I was basically planning on feeding the OCXO and the PPS from a GPS module > into a simple microcontroller. If you feed the PPS from a GPS into a microconroller, you can work out the clock speed on the microcontroller. If you feed the serial signal from the GPS into the microcontroller, you

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-26 Thread Joe Bennett via time-nuts
Would you care to share what you did? I found this online. It looks interesting. Maybe nothing more than a fun project. Seems to be a lot of debate on how effective it is. I'm a novice at this stuff so I don't have any value to add on it's effectiveness...  https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-26 Thread Andreas Kempe
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 04:10:46PM -0700, Hal Murray wrote: > > Is this a reasonable setup for an affordable NTP server? > > How/where are you going to connect up the OCXO? > I was basically planning on feeding the OCXO and the PPS from a GPS module into a simple microcontroller. Using a capture

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-25 Thread ASSI
On Freitag, 24. April 2020 20:46:25 CEST Andreas Kempe wrote: > I want to build an affordable quality time source for my computer > club. I've been toying with the idea of using an oven controlled > oscillator from Ebay for getting a reasonable (0,5 ppm frequency > stability) 1 PPS signal and a che

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-25 Thread Hal Murray
David Taylor said: > With those recommendations, and noting the delays in RPi I/O (at least in > the earlier RPi cards where Ethernet is over USB), I would suggest that an > OCXO is overkill. No reason to deviate from the Raspbian OS. That's an important point. Thanks David. I'm embarrassed

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-25 Thread Stijn Nestra
Regarding the temperatur sensitivity of the raspberrypi, i have replaced the xtal on several if them by a tcxo. This a hell of a difference. Kind regards, Stijn Nestra Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op 25 apr. 2020 om 09:47 heeft David J Taylor via time-nuts > het volgende geschreven: > > 

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-25 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
From: Andreas Kempe Hello everyone, I want to build an affordable quality time source for my computer club. I've been toying with the idea of using an oven controlled oscillator from Ebay for getting a reasonable (0,5 ppm frequency stability) 1 PPS signal and a cheap GSP chip with UART for synci

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-24 Thread Hal Murray
> Is this a reasonable setup for an affordable NTP server? How/where are you going to connect up the OCXO? > I want to build an affordable quality time source for my computer club. Assuming "time source" means NTP server, the CPU is where you want to connect up a good clock. You will probably

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-24 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi A GPSDO would be the “next step” if you want to continue on when GPS is not present. They are a < $100 sort of thing from a number of sources. Bob > On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Andreas Kempe wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 04:22:46PM -0400, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> >> Hi >> > > Hello Bob,

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-24 Thread Andreas Kempe
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 04:22:46PM -0400, Bob kb8tq wrote: > > Hi > Hello Bob, > Assuming you can get a good sky view for the GPS / GNSS device, that’s about > all you need. Feed it into whatever computer you decide to use and move on. > The > OCXO is simply a power hungry “non contributor” in

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-24 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I use Garmin 18 for this purpose.  It's like 80 dollars and it's smaller than a hockey puck.  It includes GPS, antenna, and RS232 like interface.  You MUST get LVD version.  USB version and PC version does not have 1 second PPS output.  It's quite sensitive.  It's magnetic, so I stuck it on top

Re: [time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-24 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Assuming you can get a good sky view for the GPS / GNSS device, that’s about all you need. Feed it into whatever computer you decide to use and move on. The OCXO is simply a power hungry “non contributor” in this case. Bob > On Apr 24, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Andreas Kempe wrote: > > Hello every

[time-nuts] NTP server using an OCXO, GPS chip and Raspberry Pi

2020-04-24 Thread Andreas Kempe
Hello everyone, I want to build an affordable quality time source for my computer club. I've been toying with the idea of using an oven controlled oscillator from Ebay for getting a reasonable (0,5 ppm frequency stability) 1 PPS signal and a cheap GSP chip with UART for syncing the time. I was thi