Re: [time-nuts] Pre-averaging Phase Data

2020-05-05 Thread Simon Lewis
@Bob and @Poul-Henning Thanks for the input guys! This was my understanding too, which was the confusion. @Anders Wallin Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. You're actually the one that introduced me to these SDR measurements. So in essence we are reducing the sampled bandwidth (si

Re: [time-nuts] Pre-averaging Phase Data

2020-05-04 Thread Anders Wallin
Hi Simon, you can play around with different averaging ideas with e.g. allantools (or some other adev-library). The script for the attached image is here: https://gist.github.com/aewallin/a10966ac50846e264ca3ee97f2e0d832 (the script also plots time-series, PSDs, and histograms, which might illustra

Re: [time-nuts] Pre-averaging Phase Data

2020-05-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <4d24832f-8127-411a-8566-973ac6f5d...@n1k.org>, Bob kb8tq writes: >In general the way you go from 1 to 10 to 100 seconds is to decimate >( = throw away) the data to get a phase record at the tau you are after. The problem with that, is that decimation may _also_ throw away noi

Re: [time-nuts] Pre-averaging Phase Data

2020-05-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi In general the way you go from 1 to 10 to 100 seconds is to decimate ( = throw away) the data to get a phase record at the tau you are after. Any averaging that you do will filter out some noise. Since ADEV is a measure of noise, getting rid of it is not a real good idea. You can indeed make y

[time-nuts] Pre-averaging Phase Data

2020-05-02 Thread Simon Lewis
Hi all, I have a fairly newbie question on averaging of phase data, prior to ADEV. In a paper by Sherman and Jordens (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.03505.pdf) on oscillator metrology using SDR (Ettus N210), for long term measurements (1 tau up) the group estimates an average phase to reduce the data