Re: [time-nuts] Quality of timing mode GPS vs survey accuracy

2020-05-09 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
Just to add one datapoint to the discussion, I am presently looking at a professional grade receiver ($20k+++), tracking GPS/GLONASS/GALIELO/BEIDOU, 44 sats total as I type this. It reports standard deviation of the XYZ coordinates of 0.76m, 0.44m and 1.3m respectively. It is not crystal clear how

[time-nuts] Quality of timing mode GPS vs survey accuracy

2020-05-08 Thread Mark Sims
Be aware the some receivers report altitude in MSL (mean sea level) and others use AGL (height above ground level). Depending upon where you are and the conversion model, there can be over 100 meters difference. --- I >if I take a survey > with several GPS receivers will they all

Re: [time-nuts] Quality of timing mode GPS vs survey accuracy

2020-05-08 Thread jimlux
On 5/8/20 3:38 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: Jim wrote: I'm attaching a screen shot of 4 receivers, taken at the same time (within seconds,not time-nuts same time) All sitting on the table together. One might expect closer agreement if all of the receivers were fed from one antenna through a

Re: [time-nuts] Quality of timing mode GPS vs survey accuracy

2020-05-08 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Jim wrote: I'm attaching a screen shot of 4 receivers, taken at the same time (within seconds,not time-nuts same time) All sitting on the table together. One might expect closer agreement if all of the receivers were fed from one antenna through a splitter, but even then each rx will choose i

Re: [time-nuts] Quality of timing mode GPS vs survey accuracy

2020-05-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On May 8, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > Is there any published data on what happens to the quality of time if the > survey is off by xxx meters? Speed of light plus distance off “correct” plus constellation geometry are what are usually tossed into examples. Turning that int

Re: [time-nuts] Quality of timing mode GPS vs survey accuracy

2020-05-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20200508211209.315c1406...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net>, Hal Mu rray writes: >Is there any published data on what happens to the quality of time if the >survey is off by xxx meters? I played with that many years ago, using the reported residuals from the OnCore to slowly

[time-nuts] Quality of timing mode GPS vs survey accuracy

2020-05-08 Thread Hal Murray
Is there any published data on what happens to the quality of time if the survey is off by xxx meters? Do all the GPS receivers use the same coordinate system? If I take a survey with several GPS receivers will they all get the same answer? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. _