[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-10-16 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 20/9/21 5:37 pm, Julien Goodwin wrote: > > > On 18/9/21 11:12 pm, Julien Goodwin wrote: >> >> >> On 18/9/21 10:26 pm, Bob kb8tq wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> The chip is intended to be used with the divider engaged ( set to a divide >>> of >>> 2 or greater). That should act as a pretty good buffer

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-20 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 18/9/21 11:12 pm, Julien Goodwin wrote: > > > On 18/9/21 10:26 pm, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> >> The chip is intended to be used with the divider engaged ( set to a divide >> of >> 2 or greater). That should act as a pretty good buffer if the layout is >> reasonable. > > I'm using the -1

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-18 Thread ed breya
Did you say there's a 1 mH choke at the LDO input? I gather that overall, you're regulating 5 V in to 3.3 V out, running the IC that takes a few mA DC, and loading the CMOS output with 50 ohms scope input (or a 50 ohm terminator on a scope or probe setup). I'd recommend the following changes.

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-18 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On 9/18/21 10:50 AM, Lux, Jim wrote: LT3042 and LT3045 are your friend here.  Excellent PSRR well up past 10 MHz. If you need more current, you can just parallel them. $6 each for the 3045 from Digikey For best performance, take a look at the layout suggestions in the 3042/3045 datasheet,

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-18 Thread Lux, Jim
On 9/18/21 7:38 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: You need a quiet linear regulator feeding the chip. Any switcher will drive it nuts. Indeed a lot of LDO’s are not very quiet. They also may be very poor at isolating you from switcher “crud”. You need to be careful about what you pick. LT3042 and LT3045

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Sep 18, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Julien Goodwin > wrote: > > > > On 18/9/21 10:26 pm, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> >> The chip is intended to be used with the divider engaged ( set to a divide >> of >> 2 or greater). That should act as a pretty good buffer if the layout is >> reasonable.

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-18 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 18/9/21 10:26 pm, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > The chip is intended to be used with the divider engaged ( set to a divide of > 2 or greater). That should act as a pretty good buffer if the layout is > reasonable. I'm using the -17 variant, no divider, running at the 26MHz fundamental. > Loo

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The chip is intended to be used with the divider engaged ( set to a divide of 2 or greater). That should act as a pretty good buffer if the layout is reasonable. Looking at the spectrum analyzer plots, you either have crud on the control line ( ground it and see what happens … ) or on the

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-17 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 13/9/21 6:31 pm, Julien Goodwin wrote: > https://www.microchip.com/en-us/product/PL500-16 (there's various other > versions depending on the frequency you're after) > > Haven't seen any discussion about this on-list, but the PL500 is an > easily (well, in normal times) available VCXO control ch

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-13 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 14/9/21 1:42 pm, Lux, Jim wrote: > On 9/13/21 7:36 PM, Julien Goodwin wrote: >> >> On 14/9/21 12:59 am, Chris Caudle wrote: >>> On Mon, September 13, 2021 3:31 am, Julien Goodwin wrote: https://www.microchip.com/en-us/product/PL500-16 >>> ... I've designed as an OCXO >>> What tempera

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-13 Thread Lux, Jim
On 9/13/21 7:36 PM, Julien Goodwin wrote: On 14/9/21 12:59 am, Chris Caudle wrote: On Mon, September 13, 2021 3:31 am, Julien Goodwin wrote: https://www.microchip.com/en-us/product/PL500-16 ... I've designed as an OCXO What temperature are you planning on running the oven? If that device i

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-13 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 14/9/21 12:59 am, Chris Caudle wrote: > On Mon, September 13, 2021 3:31 am, Julien Goodwin wrote: >> https://www.microchip.com/en-us/product/PL500-16 > ... >> I've designed as an OCXO > > What temperature are you planning on running the oven? If that device is > going inside the oven, watch

[time-nuts] Re: Micrel (Microchip) PL-500 Low Phase Noise VCXO

2021-09-13 Thread Chris Caudle
On Mon, September 13, 2021 3:31 am, Julien Goodwin wrote: > https://www.microchip.com/en-us/product/PL500-16 ... > I've designed as an OCXO What temperature are you planning on running the oven? If that device is going inside the oven, watch the max operating ambient spec if 85 degrees. -- Chri