Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-31 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you are looking at the “raw” output of the uBlox, it is not designed to drive a low impedance. Even if there is a buffer, it may or may not like a low impedance load. Bob > On Dec 31, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Matthias Welwarsky > wrote: > > Happy New Year, Peter. > > If you get the chance,

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-31 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
Happy New Year, Peter. If you get the chance, would you also have a look at the buffered 1PPS signal? I received my boards meanwhile and after mounting the LEA module I connected the 1PPS output to a scope to measure the signal rise time. I'm getting around 6ns for the 10%-90% rise and the outp

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-30 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
Quick heads-up for everyone who might have ordered the breakout board based on design files I uploaded to github before Dec. 28th. As Peter Bell found out, the voltage divider that provides VDD_USB to the LEA module is not adequate, the impedance is way too high and since the current drawn by t

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-26 Thread Peter Bell
Just a quick note for anyone building these - I got my boards back and assembled them and everything works except for the USB port. This is being caused by the VDD_USB pin being fairly low-impedance and dragging down the voltage of the R7/R9 potential divider to about 700mV, at which point the mod

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread paul swed
Yes you did the right thing. I am a drop it in the drawer person. Hate when those batteries make a bang. On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:06 PM Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > On Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2020 19:22:14 CET paul swed wrote: > > Hello to the group Nigel is correct the way the schematic is drawn

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2020 19:22:14 CET paul swed wrote: > Hello to the group Nigel is correct the way the schematic is drawn the > Regulator will feed the battery and most likely cause it to burst. > It should be 1 diode in series with the regulator and 1 in series with the > battery so that t

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group Nigel is correct the way the schematic is drawn the Regulator will feed the battery and most likely cause it to burst. It should be 1 diode in series with the regulator and 1 in series with the battery so that the regulator can not charge the battery. Nice design you have created

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2020 13:57:48 CET Matthias Welwarsky wrote: > Time-nuts, > > I've updated the repository on github with the latest design files. The > breakout board is now final as far as I'm concerned. Common wisdom: nothing is ever "final". After some off-list discussion, I changed

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread Elio Corbolante
Should not D5 be connected on the + of the battery? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread Nigel gm8pzr via time-nuts
Hi Mathias, I'm assuming you're using a coin cell for back up, so wondering if one of the diodes shouldn't be in series with the battery, with both cathodes to V_BCKP? Nigel GM8PZR I've updated the repository on github with the latest design files. The breakout board is now final as far as I'm

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2020 14:21:07 CET Peter Reilley wrote: > May I suggest not populating the DIP header. If it is put on top of > the board then that prevents it from being plugged into another > board, the SMA connectors get in the way. No worries, the assembly process, if done by JLCPCB

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-15 Thread Peter Reilley
May I suggest not populating the DIP header.   If it is put on top of the board then that prevents it from being plugged into another board, the SMA connectors get in the way. If you want to use the board separately then the DIP can be put on the top.   If you want to plug your board into another

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-12 Thread Bryan _
That's excellent, will you by chance be making the printed circuit board design public? -=Bryan=- From: time-nuts on behalf of Matthias Welwarsky Sent: December 12, 2020 12:49 AM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-12 Thread Peter Reilley
Since the proposed board is not too dense you can provide the pads for the SMA connector and driver circuitry and don't populate them if you don't need that feature.   But this is the time-nuts group so I think that a lot of people would be interested in the PPS output. Why would you get a uBlox "

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The issue with coax becomes: Do you want to drive a terminated line? On a board built for a single application, you likely know the answer to that and can design appropriately. On a general purpose board, you probably need to allow for the “worst case” configuration ( = terminated). No, tha

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-12 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Samstag, 12. Dezember 2020 14:40:11 CET Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > If you are going to drive much with the timepulse output, you will need to > buffer it. This is true for just about any practical length of coax. It also > applies to other cables once they get past the “few inches” range. > > I

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you are going to drive much with the timepulse output, you will need to buffer it. This is true for just about any practical length of coax. It also applies to other cables once they get past the “few inches” range. Ideally the coax buffer would be something like 4 or so ‘125 buffers in

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T - breakout board

2020-12-12 Thread Peter Reilley
May I suggest adding another SMA connector for the timepulse signal. Perhaps route the timepulse trace to the SMA first then to the DIP header.   This would allow you to cut the trace to the DIP header. This might improve signal integrity. Pete. On 12/12/2020 3:49 AM, Matthias Welwarsky wrote: