Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-26 Thread Robert DiRosario
You can also get it from Universal-solder in Canada: ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Real-Time-Clock-DS3231SN-for-Arduino-32kB-EEPROM-I2C-Battery-Backup/263183091193 C $4.92 Approximately US $3.49 Or from the web site:

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-26 Thread Bob kb8tq
__ >> From: time-nuts on behalf of Bill >> Notfaded >> Sent: April 25, 2020 5:38 PM >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-26 Thread Bill Notfaded
Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits > > I totally agree with the Metcal soldering station!!! I'll never go back to > anything else. I don't even use a scope.

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-26 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Metcal’s are great soldering setups. They also are *expensive* soldering setups. I mumble and grumble each time I do a re-stock on tips. I know of several plants that tooled up on Metcal’s and then switched to something else after a few years. The issue was never performance. It always

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 4/25/2020 6:06 PM, Bryan _ wrote: They make quite a few models which one are you recommending? For soldering, use the Metcal STTC-090 tip ($27.78 from Mouser SKU 745-STTC-090) 0.25mm tip diameter, perfect for 25 mil pitch BE SURE TO GET THE WS1 AUTO-SLEEP WORKSTAND TO SAVE THE TIP!

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Didier Juges
y measurement < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits > > I totally agree with the Metcal soldering station!!! I'll never go back to > anything else. I don't even use a scope. I bought some magnifying glasses >

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Bryan _
They make quite a few models which one are you recommending? -=Bryan=- From: time-nuts on behalf of Bill Notfaded Sent: April 25, 2020 5:38 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
I totally agree with the Metcal soldering station!!! I'll never go back to anything else. I don't even use a scope. I bought some magnifying glasses with 5 sets of different power lenses you wear like glasses. It has built in led light and adjustable strap that hold it on your head off Amazon.

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi For around $10, you likely can get a stencil with your board order. Screening solder on the board can be set up with masking tape and a few scrap boards as “stops”. With the solder paste already in the correct locations, there is a lot less need for messing around. The board can be reflowed

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread ASSI
On Samstag, 25. April 2020 16:24:35 CEST John Moran, Scawby Design wrote: > As a few others have pointed out on this thread, there are some simple > methods of soldering fine-pitch devices. I use the one already mentioned > that can be done with a clunky soldering iron, some solder-wick and a low

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I know this is getting off topic, but one more comment from me. Solder flux is really important. I use nothing but "no clean" type for SMT work -- very thin 0.015 no-clean solder (63/37 PbSn while I still can), and a bottle of liquid no-clean flux with a needle dispenser. I make sure the work

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Burt I. Weiner
John, What you and I do for SMT type IC's is pretty much the same. Several years ago the wife of a close friend was in the re-work business with a home setup. What she taught me was to first line up one of the corner pins and tack solder it down. Then do the opposite corner, center the

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Ben Bradley
Adafruit and Sparkfun sell a remarkable number of SMT parts already on breakout boards for moderate prices. I looked up the three parts and found the DS3231 on a board (two different boards even), in stock and ready to order from Adafruit (most Adafruit and Sparkfun products are also sold through

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Chris Burford
: Saturday, April 25, 2020 05:27 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits j...@scawbydesign.co.uk said: > Just to put the record straight, I am a 72-year-old retired > elect

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Dana Whitlow
When soldering parts with tight pin spacings, don't forget the trick of clearing shorts between adjacent pins using copper braid freshly wet with liquid flux. The message here is: don't panic if you create a short or even a group of shorts while soldering. It happens all the time and is pretty

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Hal Murray
j...@scawbydesign.co.uk said: > Just to put the record straight, I am a 72-year-old retired electronics > specialist who uses a 50-year-old Weller soldering iron and a magnified > (x3.5) bench light to solder 64pin 0.5mm pitch MSP430 microprocessors by > hand. As I said - "... not impossible to

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread John Moran, Scawby Design
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:19:24 + (UTC) Perry Sandeen said - "I believe It is a bit disingenuous to say: *It is a small-pitch device but not impossible to solder*. Really?? If you've dropped $750 to $1K for a stereo microscope and other specialized soldering equipment then you can

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-24 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Perry -- The circuit in the FatPPS is really simple and would be easy to duplicate. Frankly, the reason we had to significantly increase the cost is because we provide the board fully assembled (it's all surface mount parts), and with the low volume we've had in the last few years, the

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-24 Thread Jim Harman
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:20 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > But for us *Po Folks* hobbyist we have to stick with older but larger > parts. > Now if there was a service where you could order the part soldered to a > breakout board with .1 inch breakout pins

[time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-24 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Learned Gentlemen, Several poster wrote: TAPR offers a FatPPS kit to stretch the pulse out, and it looks likethey're back in stock. I have one but haven't assembled it yet.https://tapr.org/product/fatpps-pulse-stretcher/  OK no problemo. But it's $55. It's probably a great device, but does this