Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-21 Thread Michael Schippling
That ref you give looks like a pretty good analysis. Although I can't attest to the accuracy of any of it, it's got lots of cool equations. I assume you are referring to the graph on pg 17, where the no-problem-with-rain statement is made...That particular page is a really fabulous example of what

RE: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-21 Thread Aleksandr N. Sadkov
In theory Rain doesn't affect on Path Loss at 2.4GHz, for example (http://www.radionet.com/_FileRoot/318040.pdf) But I have measured great drop in RSSI during the rain, I guess it's due to antenna effects. Regards, Sadkov Aleksandr. > > A few rules of thumb... > The lower the frequency, th

Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-20 Thread Michael Schippling
A few rules of thumb... The lower the frequency, the more likely the signal will "curve" or diffract around obstacles. The bigger and more conductive the obstruction, the more it will absorb. Microwaves at 2.4 GHz are used to heat food because water absorbs at that frequency, th

Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-20 Thread David Gay
On 2/20/07, Philip Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Feb 20, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Jacob Sorber wrote: > You are asking for a simple answer where none exists. Wireless > channels are tricky. While line-of-sight is straightforward, "not > in line of sight" could mean a lot of things. What is ob

Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-20 Thread Philip Levis
On Feb 20, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Jacob Sorber wrote: You are asking for a simple answer where none exists. Wireless channels are tricky. While line-of-sight is straightforward, "not in line of sight" could mean a lot of things. What is obstructing the signal? A building? A person? A hill

Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-20 Thread Jacob Sorber
You are asking for a simple answer where none exists. Wireless channels are tricky. While line-of-sight is straightforward, "not in line of sight" could mean a lot of things. What is obstructing the signal? A building? A person? A hill of dirt and rock? Is it raining? What is the humidity?

Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-20 Thread manu suryavansh
hi, what is the range when not in line of sight, i thought that the communication in 2.5Ghz frequency range is not affected by line of sight thank you manu Joe Polastre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As per the datasheet, 1 meter elevated above the ground, line of sight. For on the ground results,

Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-06 Thread Joe Polastre
As per the datasheet, 1 meter elevated above the ground, line of sight. For on the ground results, see: http://www.polastre.com/papers/spots05-telos.pdf -Joe On 2/6/07, Xavier Orduña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm using the tmote sky to deploy a wsn in an outdoor environment. After firsts

Re: [Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-06 Thread Tiago Camilo
Well, This in fact is the normal behavior of such radio. But i think that you can try to ask directly to the tmote sky producers what were the conditions to get up to 125 meters. In order for you to increase the connectivity range you can try to lift a bit both nodes, even only 0.5 meters can i

[Tinyos-help] Outdoor Range with Tmote sky

2007-02-06 Thread Xavier Orduña
Hi, I'm using the tmote sky to deploy a wsn in an outdoor environment. After firsts tests, I discovered that when motes are on the floor (without any tripod or similar) the maximum range (using max tx power) is no higher than 7 or 8 meters. That's very far from the 125 meter range that is des