Re: attachment in romantic relationships

2004-03-21 Thread jim clark
Hi On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Christopher D. Green wrote: > jim clark wrote: > > Scientific psychologists should take philosophy and history of > > science with a real heavy dose of salt (i.e., skepticism). Our > > scientific practices should be based on a science of science, not > > philosophy or histo

Re: Harlow article

2004-03-21 Thread Beth Benoit
No, I don't.  Are you looking for it? Beth - Original Message - From: Jim Matiya To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: RE: Harlow article Hi Beth, Do you have the article and questions that were posed f

RE: Harlow article

2004-03-21 Thread Jim Matiya
Hi Beth, Do you have the article and questions that were posed for the Scientific American article about Harlow??   jim   Jim Matiya Carl Sandburg High School 131st and LaGrange Road Orland Park, IL 60462 2003 Moffett Memorial (High School Category) Teaching Excellence Award of the Society for

Re: Slater's book

2004-03-21 Thread Paul Brandon
At 4:49 PM -0500 3/21/04, Stephen Black wrote: and he says Slater didn't describe the story about Deborah in a Skinner box as true. He says Slater prefaced it with the phrase "what we presume to know", and she ended by saying "It all seems, without a doubt, good intentioned, if not downright no

Re: Incest taboos

2004-03-21 Thread Stephen Black
Allen Esterson said, in reference to my comment that the evidence he cited supports what is better termed a social, not biological hypothesis: > let’s try again and see how close we can get to agreement. In my view the > evidence of the studies I cited points to a genetic propensity for > sibling

Re: Slater's book

2004-03-21 Thread Beth Benoit
I join the ranks of those chagrined at the apparent mess Lauren Slater made of the Skinner story, but I'm still planning to read it.  (I'll give a book report for TIPS if anyone is interested.)  I've been a fan of her writing, though she does have some rather challenging ideas.  Two of her b

Harlow article

2004-03-21 Thread Beth Benoit
Thanks to Stephen for pointing out the Harlow article which I enjoyed this morning in the Boston Globe. Clicking on the URL Stephen was given however, doesn't bring up the wonderful photos included in the story.  A couple of them are the classics we've probably all seen, but two, including t

Slater's book

2004-03-21 Thread Stephen Black
Given the critical comments in this thread concerning the veracity of Laura Slater's book _Opening Skinner's Box_, I thought people might like to read a sample of her work. The Boston Globe has reprinted an adapted version of her essay on Harry Harlow at: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/081/focus

Re: attachment in romantic relationships

2004-03-21 Thread Christopher D. Green
jim clark wrote: Scientific psychologists should take philosophy and history of science with a real heavy dose of salt (i.e., skepticism). Our scientific practices should be based on a science of science, not philosophy or history (at least the nonempirical variants of those disciplines), and of c

Re: attachment in romantic relationships

2004-03-21 Thread jim clark
Hi On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Christopher D. Green wrote: > characterize it as an "operationalization." "Operational definitions" > were badly misunderstood and badly distorted by the behavioral > psychologists who picked them up from physics in the first place, and > the "operational attitude" turne

RE: Declining significance of TIPS

2004-03-21 Thread Mike Scoles
The recycling is a good thing! Now and then, a new idea pops up. I hope that the "older" members can continue to be active in these discussions with a role different from librarians. >-Original Message- >From: Annette Taylor, Ph. D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >The same old same old gets re

Re: attachment in romantic relationships

2004-03-21 Thread Christopher D. Green
Christine L. Glover wrote: In many ways, I do see attachment theory as an operationalization of Freud (our childhood haunts us). There can be no doubt that Bowby and the "attachment" gang were highly *influenced* by psychoanalysis -- attachment might even be seen as a "development" of psychoana

Re: Freud and attachment theory

2004-03-21 Thread Allen Esterson
A correction: Sorry, I made a slip in my last message (no excuses, but it *is* difficult keeping track of Freud’s contradictory assertions). I wrote: “Odder still, although in 1925 he was still asserting that “in both cases [boys and girls] the mother is the original [libidinal] object” (1925, SE

Freud and attachment theory

2004-03-21 Thread Allen Esterson
Christine Glover wrote: >In many ways, I do see attachment theory as an operationalization > of Freud (our childhood haunts us).” Christine, could you please explain what you mean by attachment theory being “an operationalization of Freud”. What Freud ‘uncovered’ about our childhood, from analysi