RE: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Rick Adams
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant   Paul wrote:    The real challenge would be to find a pharmacologist (psych or otherwise) who has not (at least indirectly) received some form of support from the big pharm. That's true, of course. But there is quite a bit of difference between

RE: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread jim clark
Hi On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Rick Adams wrote: > We all know that our approach to a research project is as important as the > manner in which we conduct it. Financial considerations can play a part in > that approach--and thus in the overall results we obtain. I doubt there is > anyone on this list who

Re: A logical consequence for disrespect

2004-04-25 Thread John W. Nichols, M.A.
You do not say whether you provided the sub with the material presented, or the sub provided his/her own. Some subs do a very good job of contributing to the class, but I have known of some who simply "read the book" to the students. Nothing excuses the disrespectful behavior of the students wh

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Bill Scott
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant Addendum,   I would also like to add that in regard to the message that I criticized, Dr. Thomas AM Kramer claimed no drug company connections, even though he clearly has many and has disclosed them in other venues when he has been forced to do so. These ki

RE: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Shearon, Tim
What would they win? :) Ok it isn't my main area but Bill's point is well taken. I suppose I'd be guilty too if you count a few free books or those stupid little foam objects they hand out or an occasional paid review or grant evaluation. Bill's point, as I see it, btw, is that it is more a matt

RE: A logical consequence for disrespect

2004-04-25 Thread Miguel Roig
Nancy, the issue of college classroom attendance and how institutions and faculty respond to this problem is of interest to me.  Rick's points below should be seriously considered particularly with respect to your written policy on attendance.  I would add one more suggestion and that is for you t

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Bill Scott
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant   Paul Brandon writes: Bill-- The real challenge would be to find a pharmacologist (psych or otherwise) who has not (at least indirectly) received some form of support from the big pharm. -- * PAUL K. BRANDON    [EMA

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Paul Brandon
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant At 11:44 AM -0400 4/25/04, Bill Scott wrote: Okay, Allen, you make me do my homework. Regarding the issues below, this is from Medscape: Go to one of Thomas AM Kramer's CME articles at medscape such as: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/420839 Then click on

RE: professionalism

2004-04-25 Thread Shearon, Tim
Marc- Before saying anything in direct response to your note, let me applaud your honesty and self-reflection. I agree that this does happen sometimes in our discipline and I won't spend time expanding on your very well stated position. What I do question a bit, is any implication that this is m

RE: Mozart effect

2004-04-25 Thread Shearon, Tim
Tipsters- Obviously Ken is way out of touch. (I'm sure everyone can see the tongue in my cheek!) The rats don't have to hear the piano because, as Leibniz already showed, it is the monad level where the Mozart effect takes place. :) (Don't be fooled by the seeming contradiction of the time space

RE: A logical consequence for disrespect

2004-04-25 Thread Rick Adams
    A couple thoughts spring to mind that you may want to consider:       1. You mention penalizing both those who left early and those who didn't attend in the first place. But you don't state whether or not the students knew you wouldn't be there. If they did, then the lack of attendance i

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Bill Scott
Okay, Allen, you make me do my homework. Regarding the issues below, this is from Medscape: Go to one of Thomas AM Kramer's CME articles at medscape such as: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/420839 Then click on "disclosures" at the top of the page. You will find the following. Disclosure: Tho

Re: Mozart effect

2004-04-25 Thread Ken Steele
Add a second wee problem. Rats do not hear much of the music because the piano note frequencies are below abolute threshold for rats. http://www.acs.appstate.edu/dept/psych/Documents/Steele2003.pdf Don Allen wrote: Hi Ron- Thanks for passing on the article. It's nice to know that we now have

RE: A logical consequence for disrespect

2004-04-25 Thread Carol Stonecipher
My suggestion might be (still in the thinking out loud stage) to reinforce the mature, respectful behavior of those on the final exit roll (if even with a comment of recognition and appreciation). I've had a situation in one of my classes that has left me considering options in classroom manage

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Don Allen
Hi Allen- Thanks for providing further information about Dr. Kramer. I particularly enjoyed reading, "Practitioners and the Pharmaceutical Industry ". As someone who lives with a pharmaceutical sales rep and who has many friends who are physicians I get to hear both sides of this debate fairly fre

Re: Mozart effect

2004-04-25 Thread Don Allen
Hi Ron- Thanks for passing on the article. It's nice to know that we now have a "molecular" explanation for a non-existant phenomenon. Not very surprising that the work came out of Rauscher's lab as she seems to be the only one who can relibly reproduce this effect. I have had three separate group

A logical consequence for disrespect

2004-04-25 Thread Drnanjo
Hi Tipsters,   I attended a conference this week and subbed out my classes. Of the 4 classes, 3 (all Psychology 1) were as good as gold, attended class and left a positive impression on the subs. One class, Psych 14 (Abnormal Psychology) was incredibly disrespectful to the sub, a good portion

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Allen Esterson
On 24 April I wrote, quoting Bill Scott first: > On April 22 Bill Scott wrote: > > > Dr. Kramer is a well known advocate of polypharmacy, the giving of multiple > > drugs to alleviate disorders when single drugs have not been effective. I > > have not looked up his connections to the drug compani