Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread jim clark
Hi On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, David Campbell wrote: > Jim, if you have the reference handy to the May study, I would be > interested. May, M. A. (1923) Predicting academic success. _Journal of Educational Psychology, 14_, 429-440. Best wishes Jim ===

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Now just to clarify--why am I feeling defensive?--as I said this is "part" of a much larger project! I really didn't expect to find anything new with the reading part of it and agree that 'reading' and 'studying' are two different things. I think it is further confounded by 'good' students bein

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread David Campbell
Jim, if you have the reference handy to the May study, I would be interested.  Several years ago, I decided to check the validity of the set of "study tips" I had been giving to students with the course syllabus.  At the end of the semester in a large Intro Psyc class, I checked the correlation

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Donald McBurney
I hereby publicly repent of breaking my rule of never replying to any thread that has "Random Thought" in its subject line.        don Louis_Schmier wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Donald McBurney wrote: It is incredible to me that reading the book doesn't correlate with grades [i

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread jim clark
Hi On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Donald McBurney wrote: > It is incredible to me that reading the book doesn't correlate with > grades [in my classes, at least--(how is that for a disclaimer?)], and I > am unanimous in that! (with apologies to Hyacinth Bucket, I think) > don > Donald McBurne

RE: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Melvyn King
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook "Le

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Wallace Dixon
Title: Re: Random Thought:  Why Don't They Read The Textbook Reading the book probably does correlate with course grades, whereas having the eyes simply process light/dark contrasts on a text page probably doesn’t.  Just because students take in visual information while scanning across a

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Louis_Schmier
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Donald McBurney wrote: > It is incredible to me that reading the book doesn't correlate with > grades [in my classes, at least--(how is that for a disclaimer?)], and I > am unanimous in that! (with apologies to Hyacinth Bucket, I think) Why? First, reading is far from st

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Donald McBurney
Hampshire - Original Message - From: "Louis_Schmier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
IL PROTECTED]> > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:19 AM > Subject: Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook > > > > "Lesson: The good students read the textbook. The poor

RE: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Gary Klatsky
What the recent research has indicated is that students will only work as hard as they think is necessary. If reading the textbook is superfluous to receiving the desired grade they won't. If the students perceive the textbook as essential to their grade they will read it. If a student grade is sol

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Louis_Schmier
"Lesson: The good students read the textbook. The poor students are the ones who use them as coasters, Louis." Beth, you really don't believe that cliche, do you. The research doesn't in any way bear you out. Make it a good day. --Louis-

RE: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Mike Scoles
the Psychological Sciences >Subject: Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook > > >"Lesson: The good students read the textbook. The poor students are the >ones who use them as coasters, Louis." > >Beth, you really don't believe that cliche, do yo

RE: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Louis_Schmier
Mike, you got me on that typo. Spellcheck isn't perfect. Makes me feel good when the computer can screw up just like me. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmierwww.therandomthoughts.com Department of Histo

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-11 Thread Beth Benoit
. Beth Benoit University System of New Hampshire - Original Message - From: "Louis_Schmier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Random Thought: Why Don&#

RE: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-10 Thread Mike Scoles
Louis, It is clear to me why your students don't read the textbooks. They (the textbooks) are all wet! * Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D. Director, Arkansas Charter School Resource Center Associate Professor of Psychology & Counseling University of Central

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-10 Thread Beth Benoit
I assign textbooks because I don't have the ego to suppose that students could possibly get as much out of listening to me lecture and participating in classroom exercises as they ultimately do from combining the classroom information with the wonderful mountain of information they can learn in a g

RE: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-10 Thread Robert Herdegen
-Original Message- From: Vincent Prohaska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 6:27 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook Okay, I haven't bit on a RT in a while, but I can't

Re: Random Thought: Why Don't They Read The Textbook

2003-12-10 Thread Vincent Prohaska
Okay, I haven't bit on a RT in a while, but I can't resist this one. I assign textbooks because there is more "stuff" to learn in my courses than I can possible "cover" (that is, speak about) in class during the semester. I hold students accountable for stuff that I've assigned them to read, but