Re: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-21 Thread Rick Stevens
Paul Brandon wrote: How large must a class be to justify the assumption of normality? 100? 1000? I asked that in grad school and I got two answers from two professors, 500 and 1000. -- __ Dr. Rick Stevens __ Psychology Department __ University of Louisiana @ Monroe __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-21 Thread michael sylvester
-- Original Message -- From: Paul Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:37:03 -0500 >At 8:24 AM -0600 9/21/05, Martin Bourgeois wrote: >> >>I think I disagree. Student knowledge is certain

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-21 Thread Paul Brandon
At 8:24 AM -0600 9/21/05, Martin Bourgeois wrote: I think I disagree. Student knowledge is certainly multiply determined; individual diff's in motivation, ability, mood, time spent studying, etc. all would contribute. Good or bad intructors and easy or difficult assessment strategies may push

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-21 Thread Michael Scoles
expect a large class to tend toward normality, whether the mean grade was an B- or a D+.   Marty Bourgeois Uniersity of Wyoming     From: Michael Scoles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wed 9/21/2005 7:40 AMTo: Teaching in the Psychological SciencesSubject: RE: Say it now or wait? Good question.  Th

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-21 Thread Martin Bourgeois
would still expect a large class to tend toward normality, whether the mean grade was an B- or a D+.   Marty Bourgeois Uniersity of Wyoming     From: Michael Scoles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wed 9/21/2005 7:40 AMTo: Teaching in the Psychological SciencesSubject: RE: Say it now or wait?

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-21 Thread Michael Scoles
Good question.  There is little reason to expect that the central limit theorem will apply to tests and other assessments of student knowledge.  I prefer to stick with percentile ranks and clear breaks/gaps in score distributions.  It tells me more about who knows the material and who does not th

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-20 Thread Frigo, Lenore
What is the purpose of dropping the lowest test grade? It seems to lose any purpose if the students don't know about it. For instance, if it is to compensate for missed exams, the student would need to know you're dropping the zero grade, else they'll hound you for a make-up. If dropping the lo

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-20 Thread Louis Schmier
What's a "normal distribution" of grades? Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmierwww.therandomthoughts.com Department of Historywww.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-20 Thread Paul Brandon
- From: Paul Brandon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:27 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: Say it now or wait? At 2:16 PM -0400 9/20/05, michael sylvester wrote: I have plans to drop the lowest score of students for one of my classes.But I do

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-20 Thread Keith Maxwell
l/home.htm o -Original Message- From: Paul Brandon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:27 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: Say it now or wait? At 2:16 PM -0400 9/20/05, michael sylvester wrote:

RE: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-20 Thread Marc Carter
Hey, Michael -- If you aren't going to tell them until the end, why tell them at all? I guess I'm not sure what purpose it serves if they don't know about it. It seems that it's only going to raise grades (and it will raise them a lot), but not really do anything for the students while the class

Re: Say it now or wait?

2005-09-20 Thread Paul Brandon
At 2:16 PM -0400 9/20/05, michael sylvester wrote: I have plans to drop the lowest score of students for one of my classes.But I do no want to tell them now.I will wait till after the last exam to tell them. Comments unvited. I hope that you have a good lawyer. In most schools your Syllabus h