Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-29 Thread Allen Esterson
Reference the anomalous disclosure paragraph on Medscape relating to Peter/Thomas Kramer, I have not yet received a response to my query from Dr Robert Kennedy, the site director of Medscape, but I also emailed Thomas A. M. Kramer, who tells me that the disclosure in question relates to Peter D. Kr

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-26 Thread Allen Esterson
ondon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.human-nature.com/esterson/index.html http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=10 Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:53:35 -0400 Author: "Allen Esterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant > On 26 April Bill Scott

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-26 Thread Allen Esterson
terson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.human-nature.com/esterson/index.html http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=10 Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:14:45 -0500 Author: "Stephen Black" <[EMAIL

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-26 Thread Stephen Black
On 25 Apr 2004, Bill Scott wrote: >> Paul-- > You are correct, but I would be happy to find more, such as David > Healy, who refuse to push the party line. David Healy is famous to Canadian academics but probably less so to others. So I'd like to recycle a note I wrote to our university

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-26 Thread Bill Scott
The article was written by Thomas AM Kramer. I will await the information you receive from medscape. - Original Message - From: "Allen Esterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-26 Thread Allen Esterson
On 26 April Bill Scott wrote: > Okay, Allen, you make me do my homework. > Regarding the issues below, this is from Medscape: Go to one of Thomas AM > Kramer's CME articles at medscape such as: > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/420839 > > Then click on "disclosures" at the top of the page. Yo

RE: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Rick Adams
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant   Paul wrote:    The real challenge would be to find a pharmacologist (psych or otherwise) who has not (at least indirectly) received some form of support from the big pharm. That's true, of course. But there is quite a bit of diffe

RE: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread jim clark
Hi On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Rick Adams wrote: > We all know that our approach to a research project is as important as the > manner in which we conduct it. Financial considerations can play a part in > that approach--and thus in the overall results we obtain. I doubt there is > anyone on this list who

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Bill Scott
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant Addendum,   I would also like to add that in regard to the message that I criticized, Dr. Thomas AM Kramer claimed no drug company connections, even though he clearly has many and has disclosed them in other venues when he has been forced to do so. These

RE: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Shearon, Tim
What would they win? :) Ok it isn't my main area but Bill's point is well taken. I suppose I'd be guilty too if you count a few free books or those stupid little foam objects they hand out or an occasional paid review or grant evaluation. Bill's point, as I see it, btw, is that it is more a matt

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Bill Scott
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant   Paul Brandon writes: Bill-- The real challenge would be to find a pharmacologist (psych or otherwise) who has not (at least indirectly) received some form of support from the big pharm. -- * PAUL K. BRANDON

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Paul Brandon
Title: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant At 11:44 AM -0400 4/25/04, Bill Scott wrote: Okay, Allen, you make me do my homework. Regarding the issues below, this is from Medscape: Go to one of Thomas AM Kramer's CME articles at medscape such as: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/420839 Then cli

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Bill Scott
ompanies, I "am sure". Still, thanks for making me provide the evidence for my conjectures. Bill Scott - Original Message - From: "Allen Esterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, Apr

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Don Allen
Hi Allen- Thanks for providing further information about Dr. Kramer. I particularly enjoyed reading, "Practitioners and the Pharmaceutical Industry ". As someone who lives with a pharmaceutical sales rep and who has many friends who are physicians I get to hear both sides of this debate fairly fre

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-25 Thread Allen Esterson
On 24 April I wrote, quoting Bill Scott first: > On April 22 Bill Scott wrote: > > > Dr. Kramer is a well known advocate of polypharmacy, the giving of multiple > > drugs to alleviate disorders when single drugs have not been effective. I > > have not looked up his connections to the drug compani

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-24 Thread Bill Scott
]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:16 AM Subject: Re: Suicide / Antidepressant > On April 22 Bill Scott wrote: > > > Dr. Kramer is a well known advocate of polypharmacy, the giving of multiple > >

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-24 Thread Allen Esterson
On April 22 Bill Scott wrote: > Dr. Kramer is a well known advocate of polypharmacy, the giving of multiple > drugs to alleviate disorders when single drugs have not been effective. I > have not looked up his connections to the drug companies but I am sure he is > well funded by them. His disclaim

Re: Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-22 Thread Bill Scott
I have inserted my responses to Dr. Kramer (forwarded by Dr. Stonecipher without critical comment) within the copied (<)message below. > From C. Stonecipher > National Park Community College > Hot Springs, AR. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For those of you interested in the antidepressant / suicide con

Suicide / Antidepressant

2004-04-22 Thread CAROL STONECIPHER
>From C. Stonecipher National Park Community College Hot Springs, AR. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you interested in the antidepressant / suicide concern; I forward the following: Medscape Psychopharmacology Today Talking Points About Antidepressants and Suicide Thomas A. M. Kramer, MD Me