Re: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-19 Thread Dr . Bob Wildblood
In my experience with "withdrawal" after the use of antidepressants, it has usually been when the patient decided to discontinue the medication and stops taking it "cold turkey." Just as it takes some time (it is now thought that for some people it may be up to 3 months) to take effect, it als

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-16 Thread Shearon, Tim
Title: Withdrawal from antidepressants Ed- Methinks thou doest protest too much. J Seriously, though I think these are all interesting what I’d really like to say is that regardless of what’s been said by whom and where I lie in this debate (far more toward the non-reductionism end) I

Re: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-16 Thread Christopher D. Green
Pollak, Edward wrote: Withdrawal from antidepressants To Chris & Peter: The problem is that the term "psychology" (i.e., knowledge of the mind or soul) is an inherently dualistic concept (sensu substance dualism). If you want to be a hard reductionist about th

Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-16 Thread Pollak, Edward
Title: Withdrawal from antidepressants To Chris & Peter: The problem is that the term "psychology" (i.e., knowledge of the mind or soul) is an inherently dualistic concept (sensu substance dualism). You might want to split hairs about these various definitions when discu

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Smith
You might be interested in two discussions of this issue. One is the opening chapter of Jerry Fodor's "The Language of Thought", a piece often referred to as "the Special Sciences paper", in which he argues essentially that psychological tokens (e.g., my belief at this moment that it is raining

Re: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-15 Thread Christopher D. Green
Shearon, Tim wrote: Message Edward Pollak wrote: =Am I the only one who thinks that the "psychological vs. physiological" distinction reeks of the kind of dualistic thinking of which I try so hard to dissuade my =students?  Do you feel the same way about the difference

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-15 Thread DeVolder Carol L
ose I need to spend more time on the philosophical elements inherent in my lectures. Carol -Original Message-From: Pollak, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:20 AMTo: Teaching in the Psychological SciencesSubject: Withdrawal from antidepressants C

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-15 Thread Shearon, Tim
3605   [EMAIL PROTECTED] teaching: History and systems; Intro to Neuropsychology; Child Development; Physiological Psychology; Psychology and Cinema   -Original Message- From: Pollak, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:20 AM To: Teaching in th

Re: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-15 Thread David Epstein
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Pollak, Edward went: > Am I the only one who thinks that the "psychological > vs. physiological" distinction reeks of the kind of dualistic > thinking of which I try so hard to dissuade my students? You're certainly not the only one. When I've taught the terms "physiologica

Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-15 Thread Pollak, Edward
Title: Message Carol wrote "Dependency vs. addiction is another matter. I tend not to use the word =addiction because of the implications and associations that go with it. =But, dependency may be physiological or psychological, or both. Physical =dependency occurs when the body experiences

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-14 Thread Shearon, Tim
orrect answer!). Tim -Original Message- From: David Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 3/14/2004 7:03 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Cc: Subject: RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants On Sun, 14 Mar 200

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-14 Thread David Epstein
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Shearon, Tim went: > I think that the more likely correct factors (you did reference > them) in "withdrawal" symptoms to antidepressants are the > metabolically factors. The timing for up or down regulation is > simply too long (4 - 6 weeks is more like it) and too subtle to >

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-14 Thread Shearon, Tim
doesn't help much? :) Tim -Original Message- From: DeVolder Carol L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 3/14/2004 12:33 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Cc: Subject: RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants Good

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-14 Thread DeVolder Carol L
from antidepressants On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, DeVolder Carol L went: > the body adjusts to the med--it changes in dendritic structure as > well as metabolism. The change in dendritic structure may include > "upregulation" (becoming more sensitive by adding new dendrites) or > &quo

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-14 Thread David Epstein
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, DeVolder Carol L went: > the body adjusts to the med--it changes in dendritic structure as > well as metabolism. The change in dendritic structure may include > "upregulation" (becoming more sensitive by adding new dendrites) or > "downregulation" (becoming less sensitive by r

RE: Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-14 Thread DeVolder Carol L
TECTED] Sent: Sun 3/14/2004 9:14 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Cc: Subject:Withdrawal from antidepressants Hello, Real quick and dirty, since I rambled in my last note, students in my Abnormal Psychology class who have taken antidepressants tell me that althoug

Withdrawal from antidepressants

2004-03-14 Thread Drnanjo
Hello,   Real quick and dirty, since I rambled in my last note, students in my Abnormal Psychology class who have taken antidepressants tell me that although they did not experience an immediate, upfront "high" when taking them, say that they definitely experienced withdrawal like symptoms wh