RE: morality and religion

2001-04-12 Thread Paul Brandon
At 4:49 PM -0500 4/11/01, Timmerman, Thomas wrote: >Paul Brandon wrote: >> And finally, the volume of social services delivered >> publically is an order of magnitude greater than that delivered privately. > >I wonder how these would compare if the publicly-delivered >services were funded by passi

Re: morality and religion

2001-04-12 Thread Michael Ofsowitz
Tom Timmerman wrote, > > And finally, the volume of social services delivered >> publically is an order of magnitude greater than that delivered privately. > >I wonder how these would compare if the publicly-delivered >services were funded by passing a collection plate or >staffed through volun

RE: morality and religion

2001-04-11 Thread Timmerman, Thomas
Paul Brandon wrote: > And finally, the volume of social services delivered > publically is an order of magnitude greater than that delivered privately. I wonder how these would compare if the publicly-delivered services were funded by passing a collection plate or staffed through volunteer hours

Re: morality and religion

2001-04-11 Thread Paul Brandon
At 9:27 AM -0400 4/11/01, Dave Myers wrote: >This is, indeed, a very stimulating critique of religion. Enough so that, >some >time after reading it, I penned a response, which, coincidentally, was just >distributed electronically today by the University of Chicago's Public >Religion >project (se

RE: morality and religion

2001-04-11 Thread Rick Adams
> However, most respondents were selective about who should > receive the money and did not think non-Judeo-Christian > religious groups, such as Muslims and Buddhists, or groups > outside the mainstream, such as Scientologists, should > get funds. This, of course, makes _exactly_ the point I

Re: morality and religion

2001-04-11 Thread Jim Guinee
> From: Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: morality and religion > At 09:34 PM 04/09/2001 -0400, Stuart Vyse wrote: > > >Though it is an unpopular view, I, like Jim Clark, believe religion has > >no special hold on morality. > > Indeed, for me mo

Re: morality and religion

2001-04-11 Thread Louis_Schmier
You know, I think we have to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water. First, there is inherent in all religions a fundamental problem: frail, fallible human beings are being "called" to carry out angelic missions. Second, there is a vast difference between the fundamental princ

Re: morality and religion

2001-04-11 Thread Drnanjo
Hello, David Myers wrote: But across individuals, religiosity (as indexed by such things as participation in faith communities or self-rated importance of religion) correlates with intentional altruism.  While the correlations between faith and altruism/happiness/health seem pretty well establish

Re: morality and religion

2001-04-11 Thread Dave Myers
At 11:37 AM 04/10/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Though it is an unpopular view, I, like Jim Clark, believe religion has no >special hold on morality. In case you missed it, here is an interesting >article by New York Times science writer Natalie Angier that touches on >this issue: > >http://www.nytimes.

Re: morality and religion

2001-04-10 Thread Mike Lee
At 09:34 PM 04/09/2001 -0400, Stuart Vyse wrote: Though it is an unpopular view, I, like Jim Clark, believe religion has no special hold on morality. Indeed, for me morality has always been the domain of philosophy, but I'll leave the details to Theodore Schick, Jr., Professor of Philosophy at M