Hey, Chris (et alia),
Sorry for the slow response. Yesterday I had my summer break. :)
Never was writ a more spectacular paean to college algebra! But I'm going to
argue with some of it, anyway, but humbly. I'm still a youngster.
> I would put it to you that if one cannot look at a mathemat
On 31 July 2012 Chris Green wrote:
>Another point: People who do not know their history (including,
apparently,
>this professor of political science) do not recall that Algebra was
one of the
>great intellectual revolutions in world history...
This, I think, together with the rest of what Chris
along in an increasingly quantified world. And that, to me, is the real
> mission of the BA: clear thinkers. That seems to me to be much more
> important than doing algebra.
>
> And I actually like algebra and I use it quite often. :)
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Before we go too deeply into Hacker's recommendations, it might be worthwhile
to examine what is going on in pre-college math classes. One report
that focuses
on algebra and uses the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study
(TIMSS) tests (for more on TIMSS and its relationship to NAE
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> That conclusion is where Hacker's argument is headed. Any subject that
> interferes with graduation rates should be elim
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> That conclusion is where Hacker&#
I think that Michael meant was that we need another challenge from a foreign
country to scare us into teaching science.
A better answer today might be 'China'.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Christopher Green wrote:
> On 2012-07-31, at 8:18 AM, Michael Scoles wrote:
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>> We need another Sputnik.
On 2012-07-31, at 8:18 AM, Michael Scoles wrote:
> We need another Sputnik.
>
We have it. It's called climate change. This time, though, we decided to deny.
Chris
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We need another Sputnik.
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University of Central Arkansas
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That conclusion is where Hacker's argument is headed. Any
subject that interferes with graduation rates should be eliminated.
Ken
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It is easy to get graduation rates up by gutting the curriculum. Why teach
anything at all? Let's just ask "What is your name?" and "What is your favorite
color?" That will make grad rates ( very nearly) 100% instantly. Of course, the
Chinese and Indians and Koreans, etc. will not be dropping ma
Maybe this is a subtle attempt by Hacker to demonstrate the weakness of
assertions not backed by numbers, and thus the need for effective maths
education ;-)
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Ken Steele wrote:
> This is a very strange opinion piece. Hacker blames math/algebra for much of
> the dr
This is a very strange opinion piece. Hacker blames math/algebra
for much of the drop-out/failure-to-graduate problems. But he
offers no studies/empirical work to support this assertion.
Instead we get opinions from various people.
How can one do quantitative reasoning if one can't do simp
Of course, we're off shoring most of the jobs that don't require some
mathematical competence.
And of course, Hacker is that oxymoron: a political scientist.
Part of the problem is that elementary education has long been a haven for the
math challenged; it's hard to teach it if you can't do it.
Hi
This was a depressing article ... happily, the highly ranked comments were
quite good (and very critical). They pointed out, for example, how students
often have difficulty with algebra because of poor basic math skills, how
algebra helps to understand and is even required for some of the a
From: Michael Palij
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Cc: Michael Palij
Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 6:49 am
Subject: [tips] Math Is Hard! So, Let's Not Teach It?
Math, specifically algebra, is hard and, according to an opinion piece in
th
Math, specifically algebra, is hard and, according to an opinion piece in
the
NY Times by Andrew Hacker, emeritus professor of political science at
Queens College-CUNY, it should probably be scrapped or more contextualized
(in contrast to the de-contextualized math that may be taught in K-12 and
co
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