o I think they invite
>>>>> the scrutiny.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think any individual grade from the student's middle school or high
>>>>> school record might be less useful than an aggregate GPA. The 20-30
>>>>> instru
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>>>> instructors together make an index with considerable predictive power. Not
>>>> that they shouldn't be held accountable also. But it's unlikely that all
>>>> 20 or so are grading too easy or too hard. And no individual instructor
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oo hard. And no individual instructor has
>>> the same financial investment in his or her product than the handful of
>>> institutions making coin from theirs.
>>>
>>> That being said, SES, for both grades and test scores, is a problematic
>>> variable to t
id, SES, for both grades and test scores, is a problematic
>> variable to tease out from merit/ability to succeed in higher education.
>>
>> Nancy Melucci
>> Long Beach City College
>> Long Beach CA
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Mike Wiliams
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"Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)"
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:54:48 AM
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First, on the history, I believe that grades of A, B, C, etc. are a descendant
of the older 1st class, 2nd class, etc. Second, on lost inform
ceed in higher education.
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>> Nancy Melucci
>> Long Beach City College
>> Long Beach CA
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mike Wiliams
>> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
>> Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 11:10 pm
>> Subject: Re:
ychological Sciences (TIPS)
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 11:10 pm
Subject: Re:[tips] SAT and High School grade study
These studies of SAT and grades as predictors or criterion just
highlight how grades are poorly designed as a measurement device. What
is their reliability and validity as measures of p
uary 19, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study
Assessment companies and the test prep companies that live symbiotically off of
them make a great deal of money. The test score is held up and apart from the
grade
ch City College
Long Beach CA
-Original Message-
From: Mike Wiliams
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 11:10 pm
Subject: Re:[tips] SAT and High School grade study
These studies of SAT and grades as predictors or criterion just
highlight how gr
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From: "John Kulig"
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)"
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:46:32 AM
Subject: Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study
Well, grades are not perfect measurement dev
outh State University
Plymouth NH 03264
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From: "Christopher Green"
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)"
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:22:53 AM
Subject: Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade stu
Grades aren't designed to predict how well one will do at the next level. They
are designed to summarize (impossibly) in a single character (or two) how one
performed at the last level. The determinants of high school and college
performance are not exactly the same, so, not surprisingly, high s
These studies of SAT and grades as predictors or criterion just
highlight how grades are poorly designed as a measurement device. What
is their reliability and validity as measures of performance. Somehow
the college board and SAT makers get the scrutiny that we don't apply to
ourselves as gr
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Sent: February 18, 2014 2:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study
al Sciences (TIPS)
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Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 8:16 am
Subject: [tips] SAT and High School grade study
I usually don't read articles with "executive summaries" but this got air time
on NPR this morning. On the air it sounded like we'd
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From: "drnanjo"
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)"
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:00:09 PM
Subject: Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study
I suspect that the College Board - and various
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Subject: [tips] SAT and High School grade study
I usually don't read articles with "executive summaries" but this got air time
on NPR this morning. On the air it sounded like we'd be better off admitting
students based on j
I usually don't read articles with "executive summaries" but this got air time
on NPR this morning. On the air it sounded like we'd be better off admitting
students based on just HS grades, but that conclusion may not be warranted,
even using their data:
http://www.nacacnet.org/research/resea
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