I think there are wide individual differences across disciplines. Whether the 
AP exam deserves credit based on a particular score was recently discussed on 
the psychteach list.

As most everyone on tips knows, there is a subset of us who are AP Readers and 
others who have been on the committee that reviews and evaluates AP 
proposals--yes, each AP course has to be approved. Syllabi are closely examined 
and feedback provided to ensure the depth and breadth that is necessary for 
students to succeed.

I for one am very impressed with the psychology exam. For students to do well 
on the exam they really must have a comprehensive grasp of the field, MUCH more 
so than most students who simply complete intro psych in a single college 
quarter or semester and then never take another psych class.

And it cannot just be a memorized parroting of information. The essay questions 
tend to be integrative and it is typically quite difficult for students to 
score well. Several years we have had a mode of 2 or 3 out of 10 on my essay. 
There are times when scoring a 10 is so outstanding that everyone at a table 
cheers. OK, so it's a very quiet cheer.

So, I think that it's very difficult to compare the exam across disciplines. 
There are qualitatively different conceptual underpinnings. Perhaps some can be 
better taught in an AP course than others.

Annette

Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
Professor, Psychological Sciences
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego, CA 92110
tay...@sandiego.edu<mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu>
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From: Richard Hake [rrh...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:05 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: aera_tep_sig128-fo...@listserv.aera.net
Subject: Re:[tips] Question About AP




Some subscribers to TIPS and TeachEdPsych might be interested in 
discussion-list post "Re: Question About AP" [Hake (2011)].

The abstract reads:

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ABSTRACT:  EDDRA2's  Susan Ohanian wrote: "Someone asked me for research 
questioning Advanced Placement." I suggest Susan check out "AP: A Critical 
Examination of the Advanced Placement Program" [Sadler et al. (2010).]

In his review of that book Scott Jaschik wrote (paraphrasing): "Coeditor Sadler 
summed up by stating 'Advanced Placement courses offer students an opportunity 
to study a subject in a very rigorous and demanding fashion [and] college 
admissions officers are correct to assume that success in the courses is a 
meaningful measure of academic achievements.'

But if it's so rigorous and such a good gauge of achievement why are "Force 
Concept Inventory" average pretest scores so abysmally low for university 
students entering introductory courses, many of whom have taken AP-Physics?

An older resource relevant to AP courses is the NRC's "Learning and 
Understanding: Improving Advanced Study of Mathematics and Science in U.S. High 
Schools" [Gollub et al. (2002)].
BTW -Susan Ohanian wages unrelenting battle with the "Standardistas" at 
<http://www.susanohanian.org/>.
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