Re:[tips] Academic Publishers

2013-10-07 Thread Allen Esterson
Paul writes: >But, rather than nit pick over these details, what do you think about Monbiot's >larger point about the rentier capitalism operation of academic publishers? The main point I made in my original posting was to express my agreement with Monbiot that from my own experience the charges

Re: [tips] Academic Publishers

2013-10-07 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
I say it was likely because the newspaper business is in flux and changes in the paywall systems have changed fairly regularly within specific newspapers. Obviously, I defer to your knowledge as a subscriber to the Times and Sunday Times. I speak from experience with some US newspapers. But, ra

Re:[tips] Academic Publishers

2013-10-07 Thread Allen Esterson
Paul Bernhardt writes: >It is likely the paywall scheme for the Times and Sunday Times >has changed since Monbiot's article was written in 2011. 1. Why is this likely? Monbiot gave the charge for 24 hour access, but there would obviously be a charge for a year's subscription that he does not c

Re: [tips] Academic Publishers

2013-10-06 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
It is likely the paywall scheme for the Times and Sunday Times has changed since Monbiot's article was written in 2011. Paul On Oct 6, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Allen Esterson wrote: Having on occasion paid up online for an academic paper at an exorbitant price I concur with the gist of George Monb

Re:[tips] Academic Publishers

2013-10-06 Thread Allen Esterson
Having onoccasion paid up online for an academic paper at an exorbitant price I concur withthe gist of George Monbiot's article cited by Karl Wuensch: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/aug/29/academic-publishers-murdoch-socialist However, thisstatement does not represent the full fa

RE: [tips] "Academic publishers charge vast fees to access research"

2011-08-31 Thread Rick Froman
I think the cost is ridiculous and it is obvious that the publishers think such costs are going to be covered by grants or in some other way expensed. They take no account of the possibility that a student may need an article for their (unfunded) research or a professor may want to use one for a

RE: [tips] "Academic publishers charge vast fees to access research"

2011-08-31 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
om line, but increasingly that seems to be the case. ..Scott From: Ken Steele [steel...@appstate.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:47 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] "Academic publishers charge vast f

Re: [tips] "Academic publishers charge vast fees to access research"

2011-08-31 Thread Ken Steele
I have had cynical thoughts often about the academic publishing world. One has a system in which I do the work, write up the work, fellow workers do the vetting, and all control/profit of my work goes to a for-profit company. At one point, when electronic pdf reprints were just appearing on

Re: [tips] "Academic publishers charge vast fees to access research"

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Britt
Total agreement with this article. In fact, I alluded to this a while back in TIPS. Here's an excerpt from the article: - Everyone claims to agree that people should be encouraged to understand science and other academic research. Without current knowledge, we cannot make coherent dem