Looking for feedback on Tkinter compatibility with Windows 8 Metro GUI
and if there are any 3rd party libraries that support Windows 8 Metro
touch screen enhancements.
Thank you,
Malcolm
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for iOS devices (iPad//iPhone)? My google searches have not come up
with anything interesting.
Thanks!
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Kevin,
> Another option for cross-application drag and drop:
> http://klappnase.bubble.org/TkinterDnD/index.html
Any experience with the experimental version 2 of the above library?
TkinterDnD2 is a python wrapper for George Petasis' tkDnD Tk extension
version 2.
http://klappnase
Hi Lion,
Read your spec on google-docs [1], saw my name mentioned as a
slacker, and felt obligated to contribute to the discussion.
> specific functions that you think would be valuable
Here's what I've been frustrated trying to create with
Tkinter/ttk:
Framework level enhancements
- simple jq
Hi Lion,
I've thought about what you've proposed many times (a Tkinter
framework), but have never had the time to implement it.
I think all your suggestions are on target.
Malcolm
I'm thinking of a module that:
* supplies functions/tools to examine the widget hierarchy from
the shell
* pre
Hi Charles,
There are many modules that add tooltip functionality to Tkinter; google
tooltip tkinter for a list.
One of my favorite tooltip modules is:
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/576688-tooltip-for-tkinter/
If you research this topic in more depth, let us know what module you
end up usi
Dear Mick,
> Having looked at your version of the code, I see that the method: def
> handle_keyrelease(self, event)
is indented one tab too far.
Thank you for taking the time to uncover the problem in my code.
I can't believe I missed that indentation error!
Thanks again!
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I'm looking for a way to add autocomplete functionality to my
Windows based Tkinter applications running under Python 2.7
(32-bit).
I've started by using code found on the wiki, but I'm open to
other suggestions as well. Ideally I'd like a solution that works
with the ttk.E
is is a short 1 minute
screencast of a wxPython based framework called Dabo demonstrating the
capabilities that my users have asked for.
http://screencast.com/t/3qRgqHsJVbK
I'm using Python 2.7 under Windows and have noticed that Tkinter appears
to have some built-in concept of docking when TopLev
Michael,
> until the mouse enters the Tkinter window *or* the window receives keyboard
> focus
Does adding a widget (any widget) that receives keyboard focus to your
root form fix this problem?
What if you explicitly set focus to this control after you create your
root window?
I'm not on a Lin
Stefanix,
When you create your Canvas, try setting these properties in your Canvas
creation statement:
borderwidth=0
highlightthickness=0
Both these properties consume visual space in your canvas.
If you need non-zero values for these properties, then just account for
the edge pixels consumed b
Is there a way to for users to re-arrange column order in the
ttk.treeview widget? Many grid-like user interfaces allow a user
to drag and drop columns to change column order. Any such
capability present in the ttk.treeview widget?
Thank you,
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> Not all the people were happy because the darkness disappeared partially for
> some of them and more and more blind people started to use a computer, and
> discovered that the Tk interfaces are absolutely inaccessible for the
Cristian,
You have to bind your Alt key presses separately. The underline= only
underlines the letter - it does not bind to an event handler.
Here's a snippet that may give you some ideas. Disclaimer: I'm not sure
if its best practice or not.
Malcolm
"""
Treat Alt+I as a shortcut keystroke for
>From time to time I've seen Tkinter developers reference 3rd party
Tk/Tcl libraries. Some examples are the PMW widgets, TkDnd, and TkTable.
Here are some questions about these 3rd party components from the
perspective of a Python developer new to Tkinter (without any Tk/Tcl
experience)
Cameron,
.
> While many valuable applications have been coded through the years using
> exactly this cell-in-Text technique, and the code above nicely demonstrates
> the promised scrolling, those focused on spreadsheet-like constructs will
> want to know about http://tkin
> I want to thank everyone for the excellent feedback to my questions. I think
> we all share the view that Tkinter is a rough diamond.
>
> Through all the examples that have selflessly shared, I can see that their
> limitations are given only by the limits of our imagination.
>
> It has been re
Cristian,
Thanks for the links.
Malcolm
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;s a slightly simplified version of a Pmw.ScrolledFrame in pure
> Tkinter that uses ttk. It seems to work ok (I haven't done much testing
> though):
>
> http://tkinter.unpy.net/wiki/ThemedScrolledFrame
Hey, cool! Thanks for sharing that example. Looks great on
Mick,
> As an example of how to use a Text widget as a container,
> below is a simple spreadsheet made using Entry widgets organised
> into a Text widget. The user can edit cells, and later save the values of
> the cells as a tab delimited file by pressing the "Save" button.
Cool! Thank you for s
Kevin,
> A similar result can be achieved on Windows with IE and OpTcl.
Thanks for this tip. Anyone else doing something with this type of
browser/Tkinter integration under Windows?
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Wondering if any of you are using Tkinter for mobile device
applications and if so, what has your experience been like
(tricks, traps, etc)?
By mobile I mean small Linux devices, ipad/iphone, Windows CE or
the new mobile Windows 7 Mobile.
Thanks,
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Mick,
> I use both Canvas and Text for scrollable containers.
> I use the Canvas when I want pixel accurate placement.
>
> I use a Text widget for more lazy placement (one can place items after each
> other on a row, and start a new row with a "\n"). One can make spreadsheets
> by placing rows o
ts of the Tcl/Tk core.
Python wrapper
http://tix.sourceforge.net/Tixapps/src/Python/TkHtml.py
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> A few other things I miss from Tkinter:
> support for image formats other than gif
We use PIL which adds about 700K to our Window distributions. My
understanding is that PIL is cross platform, available for both the 2.x
and 3.x branches of Python and both the 32-bit and
This post was inspired by Craf's recent post on "Tkinter in everyday
life".
I'm a recent and enthusiastic convert to Tkinter after having rejected
this toolkit for many years.
After digging into Tkinter and through the very generous help on this
mailing list and elsewhere (stackoverflow.com), I'v
er help and code snippets is
stackoverflow.com. Search on 'tkinter' or 'ttk'.
> One question that comes to me, is why very few people work with this tool?
My impression is that many, many, many more people use Tkinter than post
on this mailing list :)
I've read wher
Michael,
> However I agree, it's better to use create_window() to avoid pitfalls like
> this.
1. So the proper way to use Canvases as containers for traditional
widgets is to manually handle layout and place all widgets via the
create_window() method.
2. The only reason to use a Canvas as a con
Hi Mick,
> I have never heard of packing widgets within a canvas.
Here's the link that gave me that impression:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4080413/python-tkinter-place-a-widget-in-a-canvas-widget
You can easily add widgets to a canvas just like you do any other
container, us
Michael,
> BTW, for those who want to read more about update() vs. update_idletasks(),
> there are two pages on the tcl'ers wiki that discuss the potential problems
> with the update() method in more detail:
>
> http://wiki.tcl.tk/1252
> http://wiki.tcl.tk/1255
Excellent resources.
Thank you,
> As a rule of thumb I'd say: *never* use update() unless you really need it.
> If update_idletasks() does the job, it is to be preferred.
Thanks Michael, that's a great tip.
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This question is related to using Canvases and Frames as
containers and does not consider the drawing capabilities of the
Canvas widget.
Canvas and Frames are both containers. My understanding is that
both of these containers provide identical layout behaviors via
their pack, grid, and place metho
I've seen the term "stipple" mentioned in recent posts. The
Tkinter documentation is woefully short on details here. I've
googled for examples and found very few. For those with the same
question as me, here's one example.
http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/std-attrs.html
My question is
Looking for some advice on when to use .update() vs.
update_idletasks(). Are there use cases that favor the use of one
of these techniques vs. the other? Are there situations where one
of these techniques should always or never be used?
Thank you,
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Michael,
Your code works wonderfully - thank you very much!!
One question: Why did you add your inner frame to the canvas as a window
via c.create_window() vs. just packing the frame?
I tried the frame packing technique per the following code change
(replacing c.createwindow with pack):
f = Fra
> On 2, definitely. Rather than using fill, you could set the
outline color, style, and width (e.g. dash/stipple):
[1]> http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/canvas.htm
Thanks Wayne,
Malcolm
References
1. http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/canvas.htm
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Michael,
Ah, I see! The trick seems to be:
- don't set a frame's border width or relief properties (or reset them
to 0 and 'flat')
- set highlightcolor=
- set highlightbackground=
- set highlightthickness=
I think that also answers the question I just posted regarding how to
create the appearanc
I understand that Tkinter frames do not have a property that
allows their border color to be customized.
Here are some high level ideas I have on how to create a colored
border effect - any suggestions on best practice appreciated.
1. Turn off the frame's border. Enclose the frame in a parent
fra
Hi Michael,
> For widgets that don't accept keyboard focus you can use the
> highlightbackground option to create a colored border (although you cannot
> add a "3D"-relief this way) ...
I took your example and added another frame and widgets that gain focus.
Your highlightbackground suggestion
Dave,
Works in Python 2.7 by changing import statements to:
from Tkinter import *
import ttk
Is there a way to change a frame's border color? (I think this is a
Tkinter limitation, but I'd love to be proven wrong)
I don't think your border width spinner updates the border
Michael,
>> Is there a way to drill-down to the Tk label controls in the captions
>> and bind to their events? Or is there a way to expose the tabs
>> as actual widgets whose events can be bound to?
> I don't think this is possible, it looks like the notebook widget itself
> is one window that c
grafted on widgets that are
place()-ed above controls.
Here's the copy and paste code for Python 3.1; the usual
Tkinter/ttk import statements need to be adjusted for Python 2.7.
http://www.java2s.com/Open-Source/Python/3.1.2-Python/Demo/Demo/t
kinter/ttk/notebook_closebtn.py.htm
Note: You need to s
Michael,
> The following example seems to do what you want, at least unless you change
> the theme in use
>
> f = tkFont.Font(family='helvetica', size=-12)
> s = ttk.Style()
> s.configure('.', font=f)
That is **exactly** what I was looking for.
Once again, thank you so much for your help.
Tkin
Michael,
Thank you so much for your example!!
Re: Detect mouse events on tabs. The trick for me was understanding how
to use the index method. Your technique below is exactly the solution I
was looking for (I wasn't aware of the '@%d,%d' formatting technique).
index = event.widget.index('@%d,%d'
Cristian,
> Here: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/541092-tknotebook/
>
> Here's how to create a class to create notebook. With a little patience can
> be converted for use with 8.5 tkinter.ttk and Python 3.1
Thank you!
Malcolm
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I'm using the ttk.Notebook widget. What object do I bind to
capture events related to specific tabs?
I would like to trap when a tab caption gets keyboard focus
('') and when the mouse pointer is over a specific tab
caption ('').
I can trap mouse clicks on tabs (, ), but I
can't find a way to det
Is there a way to change the ttk.Notebook tab's font or font
height?
Use case: I would like to use a named font object for my tab
captions so a user can change the height of the named font and
have the font sizes of all the widgets on a page increase in size
(including the ttk.Notebook tab caption
I'm using the ttk.Notebook widget to manage a list of open files.
I create and destroy tabs as a user opens and closes files.
I would like to offer my users a way to change the order of the
notebook tabs. Ideally I would like my users to be able to drag
and drop tabs like they do in Firefox, but I
Michael,
> pipe = subprocess.Popen(args, stdout=subprocess.PIPE,
> stderr=subprocess.STDOUT, shell=False)
What happens when you try shell=True?
Also, is there a way to run ssh unbuffered?
What happens when you exit root.mainloop()? Can you try a root.after(
1000, root.quit ) to see if your exa
Craf,
> Changing the background color ttk.Labelframe control, label does not change
> color.
I believe this is by design, eg. none of the ttk widgets allow their
foreground or background colors to be changed because these colors are
determined by the system's current color scheme.
Malcolm
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Michael,
> >>> e1.event_delete('<>', '')
> >>> e1.event_add('<>', '')
Thank you! That's the *exact* technique I was searching for.
> I'm not sure if this would make sense, though. Aren't these default bindings
> the same for any locale (at least this is true for germany :)?
I mistakenly thoug
What determines the initial position of Tkinter's root and
Toplevel() windows?
Under Windows (running Python 2.7), my root window appears to
show up in random positions (usually clustered around the upper
left of my display).
The position of my first Toplevel() window appears to be rand
I noticed there are a lot of non-US developers on this list. I'm
looking for tips on using Tkinter in non-US locales.
In particular:
1. Are there any Unicode or font specific issues to be concerned
about?
2. Are you using the locale module to control how you display or
parse data moving into and
It seems that Tkinter Entry and Text widgets have built in
support for basic clipboard functionality via the keystrokes
Ctrl+X/Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V (cut, copy, paste).
Of course these make sense for English speaking locales. How does
this functionality work when Tkinter is used in non-English
locales? Ar
Mick,
> If you are placing a row of widgets into a frame, with pack you don't have to
> keep track of which column you are up to, just pack them one after the other.
I think grid() will automatically increment the row if you don't specify
it.
Malcolm
Mick,
Perfect - that's just what I was looking for.
Malcolm
From: "Michael O'Donnell"
Look at:
w.winfo_ismapped()
...Note that if a widget IS packed, but the parent (or some ancestor)
is not, this will return False.
w.winfo_manager()
-- will return "" if the widget is not packed/gridded e
Michael,
Your pack_forget() code works like a charm!
Thank you,
Malcolm
From: "Michael Lange"
To: tkinter-discuss@python.org
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:51:23 +0100
There's nothing like that built in, but it is quite easy to set it up:
from Tkinter import *
root = Tk()
root.geometry('200x200'
Are there any best practice tips regarding when one should use
pack vs. grid for their layouts?
>From what I've been reading via google, the concencus seems to be
that grid can handle any pack scenario but not vice-versa.
Thanks,
Malcolm
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Michael,
Thanks for the pack_forget() implementation and for the confirmation
that one should use grid vs. pack for scenarios that require
showing/hiding widgets.
Malcolm
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> Tkinter?
Another way to control visibility might be to size a control/widget a
height/width of 0,0.
But Tkinter ignores this type of size request. (It does accept a size
request of 1,1, but in the case of Frame, im
Kevin,
> No, there isn't. You have to be careful with the packing order for
pack_forget() to work--this works best if you limit its use to the last
widget group packed. Otherwise, it may be packed in a different
location, with surprising results.
Thanks for that tip! (You're right - I would ha
Is there a widget method that returns whether a widget is
pack()-ed or unpacked?
The same question applies to widget's placed with the grid() or
place() layout managers.
Thank you,
Malcolm
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Is there a pack equivalent of the grid_remove() method where a
widget's original pack() settings are restored on a re-pack()?
Use case: When I show a packed widget that has been hidden via
pack_forget(), I would like to have the widget re-packed with its
original pack settings when I issue the widg
The size of Tkinter windows can be controlled via the following
methods:
.minsize()
.maxsize()
.resizable()
Are there equivalent ways to control the size of Tkinter or ttk
Frames?
Thank you,
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Is there a way to create single pixel wide horizontal and
vertical ttk.Separator()'s?
Python 2.7/Windows: When I magnify the ttk Separators they are
built as 2 parallel lines - one line gray and one line a
light/white color. The latter color added to create a subtle 3d
effect?
I would li
Any recommendations for free and commercial icon/image sets
licensed for commercial use?
I've seen some really high quality icons/images in open source
software lately, but I suspect most of these image sets are GPL
in nature, thus (in my interpretation) not available for use in
commercial product
resizes.
Is this possible?
Thank you,
Malcolm
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From: pyt...@bdurham.com
To: "Python-Tkinter"
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:07:43 -0500
Subject: [Tkinter-discuss] Force a Frame and/or Text widget to a
specific width?
Is there a technique where I can force a Frame a
dow, it snaps to the width it wants
to go to when I don't force maxsize().
BTW: I'm using 32-bit Python 2.7 for Windows.
Am I missing something obvious?
Thanks,
Malcolm
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Wondering if there's a PIL/Tkinter technique I can use to fade a
small image into a specific background color?
Use case: I have a small message area that displays both an icon
and text message. I can fade my foreground text into its
background container by iteratively moving my message text's rgb
Is it possible to control the vertical position of the
checkbutton widget's [x] when the checkbutton has multi-line
text?
It appears that Tkinter vertically centers the [x] relative to
the word-wrapped checkbutton text that spans multiple lines
(activated via the wrap= option). I would like to anc
Michael,
Here's an updated version of my event handler that restores a window to
its previous size/position when a maximize event is detected. Apparently
all one can do within the event is change the state of a
window - changes to a window's geometry (size/position) are ignored.
The following is
Thanks for your help. Here's what I discovered (Python 2.7 under Windows
7):
Binding a toplevel window's event traps events
for all of the window's widgets, not just the window itself. So here's
how I coded my event handler:
def onFrmResize( event=None ):
i
Is there a way to customize the horizontal padding between an
image and text in a Label widget when compound=left or right?
The 2 ways I can think of are:
1. Use PIL to dynamically add columns of pixels to an image
2. Insert or append spaces to the text= option of the label to
force the separati
Looking for advice on how to remove or disable a *resizable*
window's maximize button under Windows. I'm using Python 2.7 for
Windows.
Background: I have a resizable window with min and max sizes set
via the window's minsize() and maxsize() methods. When a user
clicks the maxim
Kevin,
> Tkribbon might be of interest:
>
> http://bit.ly/hLrwIO
>
> That link includes the announcement and a download link.
>
> And a few screenshots:
>
> http://www.ellogon.org/~petasis/tcl/TkRibbon/images/TkRibbon-Default.png
> http://www.ellogon.org/~petasis/tcl/TkRibbon/images/TkRibbon-M
John,
> The following simplification of your code works for me on linux, also
> illustrating the use of justify:
Thank you for your explanation and sample code. My problem was I didn't
know that anchor was an option for widgets - I thought this option only
applied to the pack() method.
Configur
I'm experimenting with geometry layouts and would like to know if
its possible to line up a Label and an Entry widget (in the same
horizontal line) and have the Label widget right align to the
Entry widget. I know I can do this via grid, but I'm wondering if
this is possible via pack.
Here's the 1
Curious if any of you are building MS Office-like ribbonbar user
interfaces using Tkinter? If so, I would love to see a screenshot
to see what is possible.
We're starting to get more requests for this type of modern user
interface. Personally, I hate the new MS Office ribbonbars (after
more than 2
Tkinter has a cool way to create named font objects that can be
used across widgets. When a named font object is updated, all the
widgets that use the named font automatically update their fonts
as well.
Is there a similar way to implement "named colors", eg. where we
can update a "color object" i
Does Tkinter (directly of via tk/tcl) support different styles of
underlining, eg. dotted underlines or squiggly underlines
(typically used to indicate a word is misspelled in MS Word or
FireFox)?
Thank you,
Malcolm
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Hi Michael,
> If you don't explicitely define the label's font, the font is a string (at
> least here, on linux):
> >>> from Tkinter import *
> >>> l=Label(text='foo')
> >>> l.pack()
> >>> l.cget('font')
> &#x
Wayne,
> mylabel.config(font=mylabel.config()['font'][4][:2] +
('normal',))
> mylabel.config(font=mylabel.config()['font'][4][:2] + ('bold',
'italics'))
That works!
Thank you,
Malcolm
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Is there a simple way to change the font style of widgets without
explictly knowing the widget's font?
For example: if I want to toggle the bold state of a widget's
text, do I need to determine its font, then build an equivalent
font object/expression with the font style I need, and pass that
full
Hi Michael,
Thank you for your help. Your solution works well (tested under Windows
7 with 32-bit Python 2.7).
Regards,
Malcolm
> 2. Is there a way to customize the location and appearance of the
> window that contains a tear-off menu? On Windows, the tear-off
> menus appear
Hi Jeff,
Thank you! Confirming that your code works under Windows 7 with 32-bit
Python 2.7.
Regards,
Malcolm
From: "Jeff Epler"
You can manually create a tearoff from a menu:
% .m clone .mt tearoff
and post it at a desired location:
% .mt post 100 100
As suggested in
I've been experimenting with Tkinter tear-off menus and have the
following questions (relative to Windows):
1. Is there a way to change the default appearance of the
"--" menu label that is used to indicate a tear-off menu -OR-
is there a way to programmatically convert a menu widget to a
torn
xt
menu from my previous example but only with a cascaded menu.
Your example fails for both context and cascading menus under 32-bit
Python 2.7 for Windows.
I appreciate your and Michael's help. Thank you both!
Malcolm
Thus spoketh "Michael O'Donnell"
unto us on Sun, 21 Nov
ter (it's definitely a bug within
> Tkinter.py, and I doubt that it has been fixed since 2.6.5), I'll send
> another post when I know more. Of course for now you are right, your code
> "just works" :)
I can confirm that this bug still exists in 32-bit Python 2.7
Hi Michael(s):
> At least in Python 2.5.4 linked to Tk 8.4 (Windows version),
> the following fails because event.widget holds a string (the tcl/tk
> widget name), not a Tkinter class.
>
> def callback(event):
> print event.widget.index('active')
>
> Maybe f
Michael,
Thank you! That's EXACTLY the solution I was looking for :)
Regards,
Malcolm
Change your statusbarUpdate for the following, which will print out
the index of the currently selected menu item:
def statusbarUpdate( event=None ):
print tk.call(event.widget, "index", "active")
Note th
Hi Michael,
Thank you for your idea to use the event. That works when I use
the mouse, but it doesn't work when a user uses the cursor keys to move
between menu items.
I can trap the <> event - I just need a way to determine the
current menu widget and its active index.
The event object passed
Kevin,
> Try <>.
Thanks for the recommendation. Any suggestions on how I can determine
the currently selected menu item in the event raised by <>?
# here's how I create my popup menu
popup = tk.Menu( menubar )
popup.bind( '<>', statusbarUpdate )
# here's the command I bind to
def statusbarUpdat
I'm looking for an example of how to use <> to
determine currently selected menu item.
Use case: Display a context sensitive help message in an
application's statusbar as a user navigates through various menu
items.
Thank you,
Malcolm
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Wondering if there's a menu event I can bind to that's related to
the currently selected menu item? By menu item I mean the items
that show up in a popup menu like New, Open, Save, etc.
Use case: I would like to update a statusbar area of our
application with a description of the currently selected
Any tips on how I can swap the position of 2 widgets who have
been positioned in a parent container via pack() or grid()?
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Malcolm
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Cameron,
> The page has been updated:
> http://tkinter.unpythonic.net/wiki/Events
Thank you! These are excellent references to generic events. How does
one discover (virtual) events like <>, <>, <>,
<>, etc.
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Lion,
> I've created
> [1]http://tkinter.unpythonic.net/wiki/Events
> on the wiki, to note the location of such a list if it is
found, ...
Thank you very much!
Regards,
Malcolm
References
1. http://tkinter.unpythonic.net/wiki/Events
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Is there a single, master list of all possible Tkinter events?
I've been searching for such a list without success.
Thank you,
Malcolm
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Hi Wayne,
> unichr(8213) looks pretty good. I'm not sure if your original
desire is possible, but you could make it non-selectable by
binding <>.
>
> 1. Is current selection one of the separators?
> 2. If not, OK
> 3. If so, change selection to the previous item
Thanks! I'm following your strateg
Hi Michael,
> tktreectrl can be found here: http://tktreectrl.sourceforge.net/
> and the python wrapper: http://klappnase.bubble.org/TkinterTreectrl/
> tablelist: http://www.nemethi.de/
> and the python module: http://tkinter.unpy.net/wiki/TableListWrapper
Thank you for the links t
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