On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 01:08:39PM -0400, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
>
> > On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:36 PM, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > I agree that the original goal of extensible "query types" in DNS (see
> > RFC 1034, third paragraph) was ruined by poor implementation work (which
> > was in turn
To add one more point here: the WG was very uncomfortable with having any
kind of long-term delegation mechanism, which a static signature of this
type
would be (though perhaps it would be a weaker form of attack if you required
an online signature as part of the handshake, as draft-12 does, in whi
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:36 AM, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Eric Rescorla writes:
> > DNS-based priming is a seemingly attractive concept but unfortunately
> isn't
> > really workable here, for several reasons:
> > 1. It requires DNS security
>
> No, it doesn't. MinimaLT sticks to the existing X.50
> On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:36 PM, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
>
> I agree that the original goal of extensible "query types" in DNS (see
> RFC 1034, third paragraph) was ruined by poor implementation work (which
> was in turn encouraged by other aspects of the DNS protocol design, but
> let me not get
Eric Rescorla writes:
> DNS-based priming is a seemingly attractive concept but unfortunately isn't
> really workable here, for several reasons:
> 1. It requires DNS security
No, it doesn't. MinimaLT sticks to the existing X.509 PKI for easy
deployability. The same server key that you're using for
> On Apr 11, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Martin Rex wrote:
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> The TTL of a DNS record is *NOT* protected by DNSSEC, and can be
> regenerated at will by an attacker, will be regenerated by intermediate
> DNS server and its purpose is purely cache-management, *NOT* security.
>
> Only the "Signature Expira
> > Can you compare the TTL of the ephemeral key record with the A/
> > record TTL? Are they related? If someone can get phony records into
> > DNS, can they then become the real MLT server? For how long?
>
>
> Admittedly I don't know anything about MLT, but your question indicates
> what
Salz, Rich wrote:
>> In MinimaLT, the current ephemeral key for the server is added to
>> the DNS record fetched during the DNS lookup. These entries expire fairly
>> quickly, ensuring that old keys are never used.
>
> Can you compare the TTL of the ephemeral key record with the
> A/ rec
> In MinimaLT, the current ephemeral key for the server is added to
> the DNS record fetched during the DNS lookup. These entries expire fairly
> quickly, ensuring that old keys are never used.
Can you compare the TTL of the ephemeral key record with the A/ record TTL?
Are they relate
