Re: [TLS] Alternative ESNI?

2018-12-16 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 11:45 AM Paul Wouters wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2018, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > However, in a large number of cases (e.g., an attacker on your local > network, > > there are non-DNSSEC ways of obtaining this property, such as using DoH. > > Data origin authenticity is not t

Re: [TLS] Alternative ESNI?

2018-12-16 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018, Eric Rescorla wrote: However, in a large number of cases (e.g., an attacker on your local network, there are non-DNSSEC ways of obtaining this property, such as using DoH. Data origin authenticity is not the same as transport security. DoH offers no guarantee that the non