[TLS] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-external-psk-guidance-03

2021-11-03 Thread Martin Thomson via Datatracker
Reviewer: Martin Thomson Review result: Ready with Issues This document addresses some of the less obvious aspects of how pre-shared keys can be used in TLS. A lot of this advice isn't specific to TLS, but it is a helpful document. For someone who might be deploying a protocol that relies on

Re: [TLS] Question regarding RFC 7366

2021-11-03 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 01:18:22PM +0100, alex.sch...@gmx.de wrote: > my question addresses the negotiation of the "encrypt_then_mac" extension > proposed in RFC 7366 and, specifically, two possible interpretations of such > negotiation when using AEAD ciphers. I think the source of the

[TLS] Question regarding RFC 7366

2021-11-03 Thread alex.schlie
Dear ladies and gentlemen, my question addresses the negotiation of the "encrypt_then_mac" extension proposed in RFC 7366 and, specifically, two possible interpretations of such negotiation when using AEAD ciphers. In summary, the client and server could interpret the negotiation of the

Re: [TLS] A side meeting on OpenSSL's plans about QUIC

2021-11-03 Thread Salz, Rich
>Indeed it is hard to see how OpenSSL project governance and development priorities are a subject matter for the IETF TLS and/or QUIC working groups. It's actually pretty easy to see. Many IETF participants work for companies that depend on OpenSSL and the recent announcement has

Re: [TLS] A side meeting on OpenSSL's plans about QUIC

2021-11-03 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 11:12:00AM +0100, Robin MARX wrote: > I'm wondering if you could give a bit more details about the expected > outcome of this meeting? Indeed it is hard to see how OpenSSL project governance and development priorities are a subject matter for the IETF TLS and/or QUIC

Re: [TLS] A side meeting on OpenSSL's plans about QUIC

2021-11-03 Thread Peter Gutmann
Reposted here (with permission) since I think it's important to get this on the record for discussion on this list. It's always interesting to read about protocol implementation details, especially if others can learn from them. Peter. -- Snip -- Please change your mind about your announced

Re: [TLS] A side meeting on OpenSSL's plans about QUIC

2021-11-03 Thread Salz, Rich
* I'm wondering if you could give a bit more details about the expected outcome of this meeting? I have no plan, let’s see what the community thinks. (And this is not just me, this started with some people reaching out to me.) Here are some potential outcomes in my view: * People get

Re: [TLS] A side meeting on OpenSSL's plans about QUIC

2021-11-03 Thread Robin MARX
Hello Rich, I'm wondering if you could give a bit more details about the expected outcome of this meeting? IIUC, most people in the QUIC wg at least seem to be of the same opinion that the OpenSSL plans are bad; I'm not sure IETF people (and even most other QUIC implementers/users) need (more)