Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-10 Thread Wang Haiguang
Martin Thomson [martin.thom...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 10 July, 2017 7:48:57 AM To: Russ Housley Cc: IETF TLS Subject: Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507) On 8 July 2017 at 05:40, Russ Housley wrote: > The TLS WG wants to work on a a way to combine a PSK with

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-09 Thread Martin Thomson
On 8 July 2017 at 05:40, Russ Housley wrote: > The TLS WG wants to work on a a way to combine a PSK with (EC)DH after the > current specification is finished for quantum protection. TLS 1.3 allows this already. The drawback being that you need to get the PSK. At the moment, this means talking t

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-07 Thread Dave Garrett
On Friday, July 07, 2017 11:14:10 am Salz, Rich wrote: > On Thursday, July 06, 2017 10:01:08 pm Dave Garrett wrote: > > Just as a clarification, all new RFCs should ideally meet all of the > > following > > criteria: > > * AEAD only > > * PFS only > > * TLS 1.2 and 1.3 support > > * no TLS 1.0 or

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-07 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 03:40:03PM -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > > - PFS or pure-PSK only. > > > > Small things can't do PFS unfortunately. > > The TLS WG wants to work on a a way to combine a PSK with (EC)DH > after the current specification is finished for quantum protection. Well, PSK with DH

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-07 Thread Russ Housley
> - PFS or pure-PSK only. > > Small things can't do PFS unfortunately. The TLS WG wants to work on a a way to combine a PSK with (EC)DH after the current specification is finished for quantum protection. Of course, that PSK must be distributed without any public-key crypto or it will not provi

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-07 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 03:14:10PM +, Salz, Rich wrote: > > Just as a clarification, all new RFCs should ideally meet all of the > > following > > criteria: > > * AEAD only > > * PFS only > > * TLS 1.2 and 1.3 support > > * no TLS 1.0 or 1.1 support (let alone SSL) > > * no use of broken hashe

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-07 Thread Salz, Rich
> Just as a clarification, all new RFCs should ideally meet all of the following > criteria: > * AEAD only > * PFS only > * TLS 1.2 and 1.3 support > * no TLS 1.0 or 1.1 support (let alone SSL) > * no use of broken hashes (MD5, SHA1, etc.) That's a good idea. Want to throw together a quick draft

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-06 Thread Dave Garrett
On Tuesday, July 04, 2017 07:21:44 am Ilari Liusvaara wrote: > However, this requires > TLS 1.2 or newer, but that should not be a problem. > > - The proposed ciphersuites are really bad. Just as a clarification, all new RFCs should ideally meet all of the following criteria: * AEAD only * P

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-05 Thread Wang Haiguang
: ilariliusva...@welho.com [mailto:ilariliusva...@welho.com] Sent: Tuesday, 4 July, 2017 7:22 PM To: Wang Haiguang Cc: tls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507) On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 08:47:16AM +, Wang Haiguang wrote: > Dear all, > > This

Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-04 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 08:47:16AM +, Wang Haiguang wrote: > Dear all, > > This Haiguang Wang from Huawei Technology. > > I have submitted an IETF draft on using ECCSI public key for > authentication over TLS protocols. It is the first version, so the > draft still have a lot of spaces to im

[TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

2017-07-04 Thread Wang Haiguang
Dear all, This Haiguang Wang from Huawei Technology. I have submitted an IETF draft on using ECCSI public key for authentication over TLS protocols. It is the first version, so the draft still have a lot of spaces to improve. ECCSI is an identity-based certificateless signature algorithm bas