Re: [TLS] PR#875: Additional Derive-Secret Stage

2017-02-22 Thread Hugo Krawczyk
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > I've just posted a pull request which slightly adjusts the structure of > key derivation. > PR#875 adds another Derive-Secret stage to the left side of the key ladder > between each pair of HKDF-Extracts. There are two reasons for this: > > -

Re: [TLS] PR#875: Additional Derive-Secret Stage

2017-02-10 Thread John Schanck
Martin Thomson wrote: > This is a good idea. +1 > Just to highlight this point: if we need to add a PQ key exchange, > there is no guarantee that it will have exactly the same properties as > the key exchange methods we have today. I expect that need to arise > relatively soon, so that's an extr

Re: [TLS] PR#875: Additional Derive-Secret Stage

2017-02-09 Thread Martin Thomson
This is a good idea. On 10 February 2017 at 08:15, Eric Rescorla wrote: > - Address a potential issue raised by Trevor Perrin where an attacker > somehow forces the IKM value to match the label value for Derive-Secret, > in which case the output of HKDF-Extract would match the derived secret.

[TLS] PR#875: Additional Derive-Secret Stage

2017-02-09 Thread Eric Rescorla
I've just posted a pull request which slightly adjusts the structure of key derivation. PR#875 adds another Derive-Secret stage to the left side of the key ladder between each pair of HKDF-Extracts. There are two reasons for this: - Address a potential issue raised by Trevor Perrin where an attack