Hi Rebecca, thank you. I am really disappointed with Kaiser's decision. They 
even said the new nuero who saw him for 5-10 min for 1 time felt like he had a 
stroke and no TM. I beg to differ. He had too many tests and saw too many 
specialists as opposed to his "johnny come lately" diagnosis. Also all I have 
read and this site with all of you TMers he, I am sorry to say fits in with the 
symptoms and complaints he has. 
 
Dee



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tmic-digest Digest                Volume 2007 : Issue 296

Today's Topics:
  [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2007   [ Delores Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  RE: RE: [TMIC] jus wondering...       [ "Trudy " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  [TMIC]                                [ "Wayne Rabalais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Does anyone know what the rules or criteria is for a scooter for people who 
have difficulty ambulating. Art is 80 and has a TM diagnosis for about 3 years. 
We have Kaiser coverage. He was denied.  
Dee for Art



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tmic-digest Digest                Volume 2007 : Issue 294

Today's Topics:
  RE: [TMIC] jus wondering...           [ "Trudy " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  RE: [TMIC] jus wondering...           [ "Trudy " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  Re: [TMIC] jus wondering...           [ "Grace M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  RE: [TMIC] jus wondering...           [ "Robert Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
  RE: [TMIC] jus wondering...           [ "Trudy " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
  [TMIC] immune system...               [ sal r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
I can walk in my house because I feel very secure and know where the handrails 
are or grab a chair. And I use a cane when I go out with friends. They always 
take my arm.
I cannot walk in the “dark”. I must see my legs in order to put them in the 
right place.
I must sit down to pull my sweaters over my head. At any given time I have no 
idea where my legs are, sometimes while lying in bed I could swear they’re 
moving… and I look down and there they are exactly where I left them! I did not 
begin walking with a walker till three months after TM hit. 
I am also one of those eternal “sappy” optimists.  Believe! 
Trudy
Tm 2/07/02
 
 



From: sal r [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:49 PM
To: tm
Subject: [TMIC] jus wondering...
 
is there anyone or know of anyone who got control of there legs back and 
strength but never started walking?  is that possible?
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Absolutely, you just gotta laugh….. cause sometimes it is the best medicine! It 
also takes a little while for me to get the message that my foot is stuck 
either under the chair, getting out of the car… Or even someone standing on my 
foot… it takes awhile for me to get the “pain” message!! But then it comes 
thru…loud and clear…
Trudy
 



From: Grace M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:06 PM
To: Trudy
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] jus wondering...
 
Hi Trudy,
 
I stilll have that annoying problem of not being quite sure where my legs are.  
Sometimes I wake up and think that they are all bent up at odd angles, or maybe 
that I have one tucked up under me or something, but whenever I throw back the 
covers and look, they're right where I left them.  Isn't it just the oddest 
feeling?  Kind of like *My legs!  My legs!  Where in the world did I put my 
legs?*   I've gotta laugh though, after all, it is just a little funny.  :-) 
 
Grace 

 
Hi Trudy,
 
I stilll have that annoying problem of not being quite sure where my legs are.  
Sometimes I wake up and think that they are all bent up at odd angles, or maybe 
that I have one tucked up under me or something, but whenever I throw back the 
covers and look, they're right where I left them.  Isn't it just the oddest 
feeling?  Kind of like *My legs!  My legs!  Where in the world did I put my 
legs?*   I've gotta laugh though, after all, it is just a little funny.  :-) 
 
Grace 

 
Trudy,
    If i do not look I can not tell if I am wearing shoes,socks or even 
underwear! I too cannot tell how my feet are under the blanket. Sometimes I try 
to move them and cannot because they are crossed and I had no idea! If I wake 
up and it is dark I will trip under anything in my way....my wife knows to keep 
the area between the bed and the bathroom clear.
    This condition certainly is a "trip" .
 
Rob in New Jersey




From: Grace M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:06 PM
To: Trudy
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] jus wondering...


Hi Trudy,
 
I stilll have that annoying problem of not being quite sure where my legs are.  
Sometimes I wake up and think that they are all bent up at odd angles, or maybe 
that I have one tucked up under me or something, but whenever I throw back the 
covers and look, they're right where I left them.  Isn't it just the oddest 
feeling?  Kind of like *My legs!  My legs!  Where in the world did I put my 
legs?*   I've gotta laugh though, after all, it is just a little funny.  :-) 
 
Grace 

 
I hear you!! In the “true confessions” area …. I have been known to sit down on 
the “throne” and since I can’t feel the underwear… I sometimes forget I have it 
on…. nuf said…   J  
Trudy
 



From: Robert Pall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:55 PM
To: Grace M.; Trudy
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] jus wondering...
 
Trudy,
    If i do not look I can not tell if I am wearing shoes,socks or even 
underwear! I too cannot tell how my feet are under the blanket. Sometimes I try 
to move them and cannot because they are crossed and I had no idea! If I wake 
up and it is dark I will trip under anything in my way....my wife knows to keep 
the area between the bed and the bathroom clear.
    This condition certainly is a "trip" .
 
Rob in New Jersey
 



From: Grace M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:06 PM
To: Trudy
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] jus wondering...
Hi Trudy,
 
I stilll have that annoying problem of not being quite sure where my legs are.  
Sometimes I wake up and think that they are all bent up at odd angles, or maybe 
that I have one tucked up under me or something, but whenever I throw back the 
covers and look, they're right where I left them.  Isn't it just the oddest 
feeling?  Kind of like *My legs!  My legs!  Where in the world did I put my 
legs?*   I've gotta laugh though, after all, it is just a little funny.  :-) 
 
Grace 

 
do i want to strenghten my immune system now or still keep it low?  i am afraid 
to relapse so iam being cautious
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I knew we were related...  
Trudy
 
 
 
 
trudy,
 
you just described me.
 
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> I cannot walk in the "dark". I must see my legs in order to put them in the
> right place.
 
 
 
  I saw that someone was interested in scooters. I got mine from planet 
mobility on the internet. They have refurbish which it is mostly the seats and 
etc that are refurbished. The other  things are new. I don't know what must be 
done to get a scooter from insurance.
Good Luck,
Rebecca

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