Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Remy Maucherat
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 9/12/02 23:58 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in this case you keep making false statements, and not only here. It should be quite easy to look for a [VOTE] or [PROPOSAL] that you made and was voted on tomcat-dev. I swear that _LOVE_ my mates... My

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 8:40 am, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember perfectly, and this Tomcat-HA was a complete joke. You proposed a new implementation of the Catalina classes, which doesn't make sense given the current Tomcat state That's what I was

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 8:40 am, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the httpd, I'd prefer having a full distribution of all safe (yes, Jasper is safe) and generally useful modules. Experienced users can tweak the configuration to their liking, and it is easy to do,

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Remy Maucherat
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 10/12/02 8:40 am, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is one big huge difference... Modules are DSOs, if you don't enable them in your httpd.conf, they don't get loaded, they don't get used Disabling all of them can be done by

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Henri Gomez
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 10/12/02 8:40 am, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the httpd, I'd prefer having a full distribution of all safe (yes, Jasper is safe) and generally useful modules. Experienced users can tweak the configuration to their liking,

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Remy Maucherat
Martin Algesten wrote: This is the soundest idea I've heard so far. Multiple distributions sounds like disaster area to me. I currently think it is hard enough for a new user to decide Tomcat3/Tomcat4.x/Tomcat5 when presented with the choices. If there in addition to that is Tomcat4 lite, Tomcat4

RE: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Martin Algesten
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 December 2002 10:35 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 ) It's exactly what SHOULD BE DONE in a modular approach of TC 5. A small core with essential functionalities, and a bunch of modules, which will live in modules

RE: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Martin Algesten
-Original Message- From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 December 2002 10:55 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 ) I really cannot believe I could agree with you on something ;-) Remy I might have strong

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Costin Manolache
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 9/12/02 23:58 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in this case you keep making false statements, and not only here. It should be quite easy to look for a [VOTE] or [PROPOSAL] that you made and was voted on tomcat-dev. I swear that _LOVE_ my mates... My

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Costin Manolache
Remy Maucherat wrote: Martin Algesten wrote: This is the soundest idea I've heard so far. Multiple distributions sounds like disaster area to me. I currently think it is hard enough for a new user to decide Tomcat3/Tomcat4.x/Tomcat5 when presented with the choices. If there in addition to

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Henri Gomez
Costin Manolache wrote: Since things may get confusing around here, I would like to have an official vote on my prior proposal. This is the list of included features: Libs: - JMX - JAAS - JNDI - digester ( and beanutils, collections it needs ). - modeler - ant ( used for startup and

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Costin Manolache
Remy Maucherat wrote: Votes: [ ] +1 I like the idea, I might help [ ] -1 I don't like the idea, I won't help. I'll have to vote -1 until the other vote completes, and then, I'll either be: - +1 if Jon's proposal doesn't pass - -1 if Jon proposal is accepted, unless Jasper is removed

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote: Remy Maucherat wrote: Votes: [ ] +1 I like the idea, I might help [ ] -1 I don't like the idea, I won't help. I'll have to vote -1 until the other vote completes, and then, I'll either be: - +1 if Jon's proposal doesn't pass - -1 if Jon proposal is accepted, unless

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Jeanfrancois Arcand
Votes: [X] +1 I like the idea, I might help [ ] -1 I don't like the idea, I won't help. Costin -- Jeanfrancois -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/9 7:16 AM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Votes: [ ] +1 I like the idea, I might help [ ] -1 I don't like the idea, I won't help. +0 I don't have time to help, but I like the idea. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/9 9:37 AM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see why a vote on Jon's proposal would affect my proposal ( or any future vote ). I agree. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/9 9:37 AM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then make a proposal that maximum 2 tomcat binary distribution should be allowed. I will -1 this vote. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ --

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 15:16 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since things may get confusing around here, I would like to have an official vote on my prior proposal. This is the list of included features: Libs: - JMX - JAAS - JNDI - digester ( and beanutils, collections it needs ). -

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Costin Manolache
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 9/12/02 15:16 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since things may get confusing around here, I would like to have an official vote on my prior proposal. This is the list of included features: Libs: - JMX - JAAS - JNDI - digester ( and beanutils,

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 23:38 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 9/12/02 15:16 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since things may get confusing around here, I would like to have an official vote on my prior proposal. This is the list of included features:

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Costin Manolache
Pier Fumagalli wrote: I remember that when I proposed the same thing (roughly) and wanted to call it Tomcat-HA or something like it, you said: If possible, please also change the name - unless ASF gives you permission to use tomcat name in your product. Can you point to the proposal you

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/9 3:58 PM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard to find something that doesn't exist. ? I hate the practice of using old postings as arguments in most cases - it's normal for people to change their minds. There is a difference between changing your mind and making

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 0:10 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in this case you keep making false statements, and not only here. It should be quite easy to look for a [VOTE] or [PROPOSAL] that you made and was voted on tomcat-dev. Then find it. I believe it never even went to [VOTE]...

Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 23:58 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in this case you keep making false statements, and not only here. It should be quite easy to look for a [VOTE] or [PROPOSAL] that you made and was voted on tomcat-dev. I swear that _LOVE_ my mates... My friend Tonia, who's