Michael Micek wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:16:25PM -0500, Jake Robb wrote:
Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source into
your program and distribute that (internal), or you just distribute mySQL
along with your software (external).
Really? Do they define t
volve
lawyers.
John
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From: Jake Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:16:25PM -0500, Jake Robb wrote:
> Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source into
> your program and distribute that (internal), or you just distribute mySQL
> along with your software (external).
Really? Do they define that somewhere? My int
This thread brought to mind something in Perl's Artistic License. It
also reminded me that the arguments against the GPL are all red herrings.
Anyway --
> Seems pretty straightforward to me:
>
> "If your application is not licensed under GPL or compatible OSI license
> approved by MySQL AB and y
Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source into
your program and distribute that (internal), or you just distribute mySQL
along with your software (external).
The only important part is that you have to *distribute* the mySQL software
in order to incur charges. As I said
Turner, John wrote:
I guess MySQL AB should remove the phrase "internal or external" from the
statement, then. ;)
I agree, it is confusing, and doesn't even say what context "internal"
or "external" refers to.
Erik
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To
I guess MySQL AB should remove the phrase "internal or external" from the
statement, then. ;)
John
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> From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Turner, John wrote:
Without going into a whole argument...technically MySQL is not free for
commercial use. If you use MySQL in a commercial setting, internal or
external, without purchasing a commercial license, you may do so only if the
application that uses MySQL is also GPL
(http://www.mysq
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Oracle is expensive to buy, expensive to hire a DBA...
8 AM
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> I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned SAPDB ( www.sapdb.org ). If this
> will support a production SAP R3 system then it shoud be ab
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> Oracle is expensive to buy, expensive to hire a DBA...
> and
There are some great installation guides for Oracle on Linux and Solaris
found at http://www.dbspecialists.com/
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I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned SAPDB ( www.sapdb.org ). If this
will support a production SAP R3 system then it shoud be able to give Oracle
a run for its money.
Regards
Roger
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application
installer package? etc.) but sometimes it's much quicker and less cumbersome
to simply choose another solution.
John
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> From: Joel Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:28 PM
> To: Jens Skripczynski
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>
> I have an oracle administrator. It's no problem. I also have an oracle
> support
ng information can be found in
>
>http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:WKaB0FnR2iQC:lab.applinet.nl/postgresql-jdbc/+&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
> (Only Archive is currently not online)
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> > From: Schnitzer, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:
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> From: Schnitzer, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:22 PM
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> PostgreSQL may be
Just thinking out loud --
> ...
> - yes, i did check the mysql website, but rely on (maybe outdated) information
> of computer magazines, that labeled the transaction support very limited.
> ...
> almost free (for non-commercial use):
> - Mysql (http://www.mysql.com/)
> connectors:
> - MySQL
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 18:20, Jens Skripczynski wrote:
Hi,
> I'm looking for a Database,
Firebird (www.firebirdsql.org) . Been using it, and its predicessors for
about 10 years in major production Excellent Type 4 JDBC driver with built
in support for JCA (lead developer is one of the J
t version
was free as I recall.
--mikej
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Hi,
I would like to stop this thread, i started.
I would like to thank everybody for contributions.
Many things i forgot to write.
- I'm not the administrator of the final tomcat box, so needing any other
database than mysql, needs a lot of talk with the admin.
- yes, i did check the mysql web
D]
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> From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Also the clob and blob support is closer to the "s
That's not the way I read it at all. But, that's a topic for another place.
John
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ode is not
distributed under the GPL.
http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html
-Jake
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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:16 PM
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good for small projects,
> PostgreSQL is great for any project.
>
> Michael
>
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does).
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> I h
Sorry to add to the noise, but I feel the need to add: On the next
version of NetWare (6.5), there will be a commercially-licensed copy of
MySQL that an application can use without the restrictions John listed.
In case that helps anybody decide for or against using it.
Jeff Tulley ([EMAIL PROTE
not quite there yet.
--mikej
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> From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:35 AM
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If you use MySQL MAX you'll have transactions.
Another choice is PostgreSQL
Regards,
Ing. Gustavo A. Edelstein
Tech. Mgr.
Equiplus S.A.
www.equiplus.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:20 PM
Subj
February 18, 2003 2:13 PM
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> Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)
>
>
> MySQL does support transaction and it has JDBC Driver. If
> you have read a
> bit more in depth on MySQL website, you wou
Oracle is expensive to buy, expensive to hire a DBA...
and well, in windows the installation is okay, but in linux is a real
nightmare... I took almost a week the first time (I wasn't a very
experienced linux user too)
I'm using postgresql with Java and I'm very satisfied, much more
"serious"
MySQL does support transaction and it has JDBC Driver. If you have read a
bit more in depth on MySQL website, you would have found what you are
looking for.
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Hi,
thx for all the replies.
I will give Hypersonic a try. (Because native java sounds good, and i do not
have the money nor the time to learn oracle (a friend of mine told me
an adventure about installing oracle on a windows system 'use that installer,
swap cd's, because the default cd won't do
Since I don't use Postgresql in production, I don't
know how well it works (or doesn't) on Win/2K.
However, for development work Postgresql on Win/2K
works fine. I'm currently running Postgresql on my
Win/2K Pro machine.
I suspect that since Postgresql has to go through
Cygwin to access a filesy
bruary 18, 2003 11:26 AM
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>
>
>
> For an industrial strength open-source DB, try
> http://postgresql.org
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[E
> If I'm going to go to that size I'd rather run Oracle. But if it's
> something
> small hypersonic is great.
There is no comparison. PostgreSQL is very simple to install and run.
Oracle requires an Oracle administrator ($$$) to install. I don't think a
database can be much easier to install th
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:14 PM
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>
> Hypersonic, best thing is that it's written i
At 19:20 18.2.2003 +0100, you wrote:
hi,
I'm looking for a Database, that can do
- sql transactions,
(or anything similiar to sql - if it works with a xml
database, xml is fine)
- has a java 1.4.1 jdbc driver
- is free (even better if for commercial use)
'Mysql' was my first option, but it d
26 AM
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>
>
> For an industrial strength open-source DB, try
> http://postgresql.org
>
>
>
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&g
For an industrial strength open-source DB, try
http://postgresql.org
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Hypersonic, best thing is that it's written in java, and can be embedded
into your applications. Also, you can setup the tables to be in memory, or
on disk...
--mikej
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:
: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:03 AM
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mysql does have transactions,
just go through the docs
Filip
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Check out Postgresql at www.postgresql.org
HTH
/mde/
just my two cents . . . .
--- Jens Skripczynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
>
> I'm looking for a Database, that can do
> - sql transactions,
> (or anything similiar to sql - if it works with a
> xml
> database, xml is fine)
> - h
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=postgresql
John
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> From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:20 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
Postgre sql?
Regards,
PQ
"This Guy Thinks He Knows Everything"
"This Guy Thinks He Knows What He Is Doing"
-Original Message-
From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 18, 2003 1:20 PM
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Subject: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry
mysql does have transactions,
just go through the docs
Filip
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From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:20 AM
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hi,
I'm looking for a Da
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