Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-15 Thread James Carlson
Stephen Hahn writes: > * S h i v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-15 03:01]: > > If a distro needs to remove unneeded parts, they need to essentially > > maintain their own ON tree. > > This point is distinct: a hypothetical distro's desire to > amortize its own costs for customization across the

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-14 Thread S h i v
On Nov 15, 2007 8:46 AM, Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * S h i v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-15 03:01]: > > If a distro needs to remove unneeded parts, they need to essentially > > maintain their own ON tree. > > This point is distinct: a hypothetical distro's desire to > amortize

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-14 Thread Stephen Hahn
* S h i v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-15 03:01]: > If a distro needs to remove unneeded parts, they need to essentially > maintain their own ON tree. This point is distinct: a hypothetical distro's desire to amortize its own costs for customization across the participants in a consolidatio

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-14 Thread S h i v
On Nov 14, 2007 3:50 AM, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Lowe writes: > > Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 2. It's always possible to take stuff *out* of ON. Alan B and I > > > would be happy to help someone trying to move/upgrade Perl in > > > SFW,

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Memishian
> > That doesn't mean coreutils in SFW. I suppose it *could* be done that > > way, with a bit of help, but the underlying point is that much of what > > is in ON doesn't much belong there, as it has no real tie to > > consolidation, and could just as effectively be built atop. > > It could

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-13 Thread Richard Lowe
James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Richard Lowe writes: >> Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > 2. It's always possible to take stuff *out* of ON. Alan B and I >> > would be happy to help someone trying to move/upgrade Perl in >> > SFW, which could result in one o

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-13 Thread James Carlson
Richard Lowe writes: > Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 2. It's always possible to take stuff *out* of ON. Alan B and I > > would be happy to help someone trying to move/upgrade Perl in > > SFW, which could result in one or both Perl versions in ON being > > delete

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-13 Thread Richard Lowe
Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Darren and James raise good questions. I'll add two other points: > > 1. There's an effort to speed ON build performance going on already. > Search for mail messages from Alexander Kolbasov (akolb). You may > wish to see what issues the

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-13 Thread Stephen Hahn
Darren and James raise good questions. I'll add two other points: 1. There's an effort to speed ON build performance going on already. Search for mail messages from Alexander Kolbasov (akolb). You may wish to see what issues they've encountered with Makefile manipulation

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-12 Thread Darren J Moffat
S h i v wrote: > The current ON is one monolithic piece. The Makefile structure does > not provide any mechanism to customize (add/remove) items at build > time. Either the entire stuff is in, or entire stuff is out. > > I would like to ask if there would be any interest in refactoring the > curre

Re: [tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-12 Thread James Carlson
S h i v writes: > I would like to ask if there would be any interest in refactoring the > current build mechanism to allow for discovering what all options are > available and to configure the same. Something on the lines of > menuconfig of linux kernel. This I believe allows for people to Ick. W

[tools-discuss] Refactoring the ON Makefile structure

2007-11-10 Thread S h i v
The current ON is one monolithic piece. The Makefile structure does not provide any mechanism to customize (add/remove) items at build time. Either the entire stuff is in, or entire stuff is out. I would like to ask if there would be any interest in refactoring the current build mechanism to allow