Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread River Tarnell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fahad Sadah: > Out of interest, how would these limited rights be implemented? using a set of small, secure setuid programs i would write for the purpose. we can't use sudo because there's no way to say "allow this user to run kill as root as long as

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Merlijn van Deen wrote: > I would not be too certain about that. For example, buffer overflows are > generally only a security problem when they happen in suid-root programs - > this is why programs designed to be suid root have thorough checks on such > problems.

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On Thu, August 27, 2009 4:23 pm, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > But you're not going to get root access using shutdown or kill or > /etc/init.d/apache. I would not be too certain about that. For example, buffer overflows are generally only a security problem when they happen in suid-root programs - this is

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Leszek Krupinski wrote: > Daemon? Why not just sudo? Or Solaris roles or whatever they're called, on the Solaris machines. (Whatever it is pfexec does.) MySQL wouldn't even need that; just assign the account the right to view process lists and kill processes. On

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, River Tarnell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > so, sometimes we've had problems with the Toolserver that required an > admin, but an admin wasn't always around.  some of these problems are > complicated, but others are simple, and can be

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Fahad Sadah
2009/8/27 Henrik Hodne : > On 27. aug. 2009, at 10.14, Leszek Krupinski wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Henrik Hodne >> wrote: Out of interest, how would these limited rights be implemented? >>> >>> I would guess that the easiest way would be some kind of daemon >>> running as r

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Henrik Hodne
On 27. aug. 2009, at 10.14, Leszek Krupinski wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Henrik Hodne > wrote: >>> Out of interest, how would these limited rights be implemented? >> >> I would guess that the easiest way would be some kind of daemon >> running as root. > > Daemon? Why not just su

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Leszek Krupinski
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Henrik Hodne wrote: >> Out of interest, how would these limited rights be implemented? > > I would guess that the easiest way would be some kind of daemon > running as root. Daemon? Why not just sudo? --leafnode ___ To

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Henrik Hodne
On 27. aug. 2009, at 09.44, Fahad Sadah wrote: >> does this seem like something that would be helpful? and, if we >> introduced it, would anyone be interested in such privileges? (we >> would >> probably require a good knowledge of Unix and at least some >> experience >> with system admin

Re: [Toolserver-l] an idea

2009-08-27 Thread Fahad Sadah
> does this seem like something that would be helpful?  and, if we > introduced it, would anyone be interested in such privileges?  (we would > probably require a good knowledge of Unix and at least some experience > with system administration.) I am interested. I have plenty of experience with Un