Jack,
I am a diehard QRPer and an originator of the New England QRP club
plus other stints in QRP officialdom and I really enjoyed your email
especially the very clever 72, 73, and 74.
I try to lurk on the lists as a beginner on 160m but cannot help
jumping in and posting sometimes.
Keep up
Yes, in retrospect, I'll assume that was a tongue in cheek 'view' of 72...,Hah,
the laugh is on me! 71.5, Jim R. K9JWV
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 06:09:38 -0700
From: j_fit...@yahoo.com
To: w0...@nc.rr.com; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: QRP Politically Correctness Concern
QRP has a different meaning for many of us who might fit the mold. Read the
following for more info.
No Taxes in This Caribbean Paradise
By Bob Bauman
Offshore, kayakers paddle among sandy, palm-dotted islets. Snorkelers explore
the second-largest coral reef in the world.
A kaleidoscope of
During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to top band operation
here 40 over nine crashes every 30 seconds kind of drown out everything, QRP
or QRO
In fact the fish beacons still come through around sunrise indicating that
propagation paths are open but SWLing them is not that
Only if they have space for them.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM, K4OWR k2...@comcast.net wrote:
When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty much goes to
almost nothing.
Don't most serious operators have oneor more???
BILL K4OWR
On 3/19/2012 10:22 AM, N7DF wrote:
If your summer storm static pretty much goes to almost nothing on your
Beverages, you certainly have better Beverages than I do!
I have heard it said that the summer static on a BOG can be less than on an
elevated Beverage. Any thoughts?
73, Mike
http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html
On
We really don't need beacons on 160, the reverse beacon network provides good
coverage. We just need stations on the air to be detected.
http://www.reversebeacon.net
The W3AO Field Day will have three transmitters on 160 meters this year, one
each on CW, SSB and RTTY.
73
Frank
W3LPL
N7DF said
Maybe we could get some low power 160 meter beacons operating through the
summer to see what is really happening
WSPR has been doing exactly that for years - over the last 24hrs there were 15
US,
36 EU and 5 VK stations active on 160. Activity tends to drop off as the summer
Here's a sample of the top band spotting on the Reverse Beacon Network from
0500Z last night. There are plenty of active reverse beacon receivers, but
only nine CQers in the USA and Canada after 0500Z: AA1K, KE1F, K3JJG, N4IS,
WA6TFZ, W7CB, W8UVZ, W9XQ and VE3CUI.
K3MM-#1820.6 AA1K
To me top band seems to be all about DXing. I can find plenty of if folks
calling CQ DX but I don't hear many folks calling just plain CQ.
Dave WX7G
On Mar 19, 2012 9:47 AM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
We really don't need beacons on 160, the reverse beacon network provides
good coverage.
THAT's my point, Dave! Don't need to have looong winded QSOs but just
calling CQ and meeting up with others to find out what antenna system they
employ? That would make my day!
Hope to hear you and work you - will be on later this week in the evenings and
mornings, albeit QRP ...Jim R.
Bill,
I truly wish that was the case. I think you may be a bit out of touch
On how many serious ops have beverages. I can't stick one on my 1/4 acre
lot. You probably have it right that if you don't have room for beverages
you probably can't be a big gun but lack of beverages doesn't reduce my
On 2012-03-19, at 12:18 PM, DAVID CUTHBERT wrote:
To me top band seems to be all about DXing. I can find plenty of if folks
calling CQ DX but I don't hear many folks calling just plain CQ.
Hi Dave,
I do here...!
But the trend for CQ DX calls is so common, if I am invariably spotted, more
Beverages do NOT make lightning caused static crashes go away. They can
significantly reduce the received level of the crashes from the directions
different from the listening direction.
However, in the listening direction Beverages will actually clear up the
crashes being heard from that
I agree Chet.
I'm serious every time I get on air, at least as serious as I can be anyway. LOL
I don't have the acreage for Beverages, I run a 125' L that goes up 30' then
95' horizontal. Currently it only has three radials, mostly because of me not
taking the time to lay out more. Funny how
I love my beverages. However, before I moved out of the city I was also
space limited. A couple of pennants strung up between some trees provided
a dramatic improvement over listening on my vertical tx antenna. There are
some good options to beverages that can be tried if you lack the space:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.comwrote:
4. There is NO substitute for acreage.
True. But I've heard that a 150' Slinky Beverage can do nearly as well as a
580' Beverage. If I didn't have 10 acres, I would either try a Slinky or a
BOG.
73, Mike
Mike,
I beg to differ, but only with your definition of can do nearly as well.
In terms of quiet reception, yes. But in terms of actual signal level and
directivity, NO.
Just do the best you can, as you suggest; but you can't present such
statements without the qualifier.
Mis dos centavos,
The beverage is not the be-all in RX antennas! Those of us who have room put
them up but they do not work well at all times. That is why I have erected a
K9AY loop at my home QTH and both a K9AY and DO loop at the summer place. I
also have a horizontal loop and am installing a pait of small
Thats what SSB up the band is for.
Why cover up the very narrow DX window with chatter just because YOU cant
hear it?
Carl
KM1H
- Original Message -
From: James Rodenkirch rodenkirch_...@msn.com
To: telegraph...@gmail.com
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:47
Hey J Carlos,
No one said the small, partial lot RX antennas didn't work, and work well
for what they are.
The point is, and in particular looking at your and Doug's cases, how many
more would you have worked (and more easily) with REAL Beverages to listen
with?
To turn the coin around, you
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations
do.
Think about that one for awhile.
-
Y'all don't work each other...something seems wrong with that...:-)
Cecil
K5DL
jim / W1FMR
--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Milt -- N5IA
Ah, we're back to that old saw --- don't muck with 'dem DX chasers!!!
OK, I've learned my lesson ZIPmouth is shut, figuratively speakkng!
Sheesh!
From: z...@jeremy.mv.com
To: rodenkirch_...@msn.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:05:22 -0400
CC: topband@contesting.com
Oh, I got that one, right away, Jim! Smiling...
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:55:11 -0700
From: j_fit...@yahoo.com
To: n...@zia-connection.com
CC: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other
On 3/19/2012 1:56 PM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote:
Since Dec '99, my own stats are 196 DXCC from a 1/7 acre West Coast city lot
or 1372 per acre. If I had room for 160m RX arrays, I know my total would be
higher by perhaps 25 or so. There are very few West of the Rockies that have
cracked that
If I had room for 160m RX arrays
Hi Steve
Congratulations for 1/7 acre you are a winner QRM fighter. May be you have
room, one issue with RX arrays is how to reduce the noise and increase the
signal noise ratio, the only answer is RDF or directivity. The second and
common unknown issue is the
That makes absolutely no sense when at the edge of reception.
Carl
KM1H
- Original Message -
From: Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com
To: Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.com
Cc: Topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com wrote:
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations do. Think
about that one for awhile.
People using Beverages actually would need much more than the legal limit
to work everyone they hear. Think about that for
The DXers world varies by country but 20-30KHz is about it. Go to the big
playpen up higher for gossiping
- Original Message -
From: James Rodenkirch
To: z...@jeremy.mv.com
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Topband: It is not so
I think the idea is that a qrp station might not be heard by a station so weak
the qrp station needs a beverage to hear him.
Of course, one could describe circumstances where that would be true and others
where it would not be true.
I thought it was clever
73
Bob/AA6VB
Sent from my
A 175' run of 5 Slinkys will have about the same directivity as a 550' or so
Beverage, a bit better SNR and still enough signal to not need a preamp most
of the time.
Its still a Beverage.
Statement based upon years of use. YMMV
Carl
KM1H
- Original Message -
From: Milt -- N5IA
I don't think that's what Jim F. is/was alluding to
From: robert.chor...@berliner.com
To: z...@jeremy.mv.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:44:13 -0700
CC: j_fit...@yahoo.com; Topband@contesting.com; n...@zia-connection.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
I think
need a Beverage? hearing a station just above the noise?
there is a VE3 i hear at 0200z at 559 and have to wait until 1000z when
he is 589, in order to work him.
you guys who never work QRP, when is the last time you have called the
same station 200 times in a CQWW contest? and never work
Far from clever, the typical QRPer has crappy antennas on any band and are
mostly just an annoyance on 160 after dark.
OTOH Ive QRP DXCC from 160-10M but the antennas did most of the work.
Im also up to 17 countries on 160 with 100 milliwatts.
I havent had any interest in WAS or working other
On 03/19/2012 06:46 PM, ZR wrote:
A 175' run of 5 Slinkys will have about the same directivity as a 550' or so
Beverage, a bit better SNR and still enough signal to not need a preamp most
of the time.
Its still a Beverage.
Statement based upon years of use. YMMV
A beverage works because
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