Topband: full wave horiz loop

2012-06-16 Thread Tom W2MN
A couple of us in the radio club were discussing the possibility of installing a full wave horizontal loop antenna (for Rx and Tx) on top of a building we have access to. The loop would be about 20ft above the building roof, making it about 100ft above ground. The loop could be a rectangle approx.

Re: Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread Brian Miller
Hi Tim I also agree with the previous comments on this thread about detuning the transmit antenna (or any other wires/cables that are resonant on 160M) and isolating the coax feed line from the RX loop. It is also important to identify the direction of the main source of the noise and orientat

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, now!

2012-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
My 160 inverted-L support rope broke, Bill. And there are other issues. (Long story.) When I am able to put it back up, it will absolutely have Guy's FCP instead of the two elevated radials like I had before. All I have right now is a 97' dipole (yes, it does not work on 160) and 580' bi-dir Beve

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, now!

2012-06-16 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 16:09 -0500, Mike Waters wrote: > Well, I plan on trying to enjoy the contest a little, even though all I can > do today is listen. :-) > > 73, Mike > www.w0btu.com Hi Mike, Listening is a large part of ham radio. I do a lot more receiving than transmitting. I am left to

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, now!

2012-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
Well, I plan on trying to enjoy the contest a little, even though all I can do today is listen. :-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote: > ... The votes are in. Wait until dark. ... I will give QRP a try but I > expect to crank in all 35 watts output. Un

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, now!

2012-06-16 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 14:49 -0500, Mike Waters wrote: > All I hear is distant lightning QRN. But good things come to all who > patiently wait for sunset and the ensuing darkness. :-) > > 73, Mike > www.w0btu.com > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote: > > > So far all I am rec

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, now!

2012-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
All I hear is distant lightning QRN. But good things come to all who patiently wait for sunset and the ensuing darkness. :-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote: > So far all I am receiving is noise. > ___ UR RS

Re: Topband: Detuning transmit antenna in receive

2012-06-16 Thread N4IS
Tim "Trying to figure out what "detune" is" Excellent question. The ground is the most important part of the T antenna, without the ground the antenna became a 1/4 element isolated from ground and wont irradiate. In order to accomplish that you need two fast vacuum relay to open the ladder line

Topband: Detuning transmit antenna in receive

2012-06-16 Thread Shoppa, Tim
OK, several folks came back and recommended detuning my transmit antenna in receive. Certainly any receive antenna I have is going to be in the shadow of my transmit antenna, a 130-foot flat-top about 85 feet up, fed against ground. (Really it's an 80 meter doublet fed with ladder line. I tie t

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, now!

2012-06-16 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi, So far all I am receiving is noise. Not overwhelming, overpowering noise. Noise to let me know my antenna is connected. I'll look at the band again later. Maybe I'll have to wait for that grey line thing and darkness. 73, Bill KU8H ___ UR RST IS

Re: Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread Sam Morgan
oops, did I forget to mention my S-9 24/7 noise floor, my bad -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 6/16/2012 9:46 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: > you want to talk alligators > try a 7' tall vertical @ 20' as your only TX/RX antenna > and a bottom floor apartment, where I might try a 6' loop > if I can build it

Re: Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread Sam Morgan
you want to talk alligators try a 7' tall vertical @ 20' as your only TX/RX antenna and a bottom floor apartment, where I might try a 6' loop if I can build it in the next few hours, hi hi gud luck Tim GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 6/16/2012 8:28 AM, Shoppa, Tim wrote: > I want to try a new receivi

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, less than 24 hours away!

2012-06-16 Thread Sam Morgan
when I am looking at the whole US on the http://www.strikestarus.com/ site all I look at is the different colored + signs those are the actual strikes and their color codes are in the upper right hand corner of the map closer to white you get, the worse it gets just for this question: 'where are t

Re: Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread Arthur Delibert
Tim -- If the suggestions from others don't entirely do the trick, here's another thing to consider: The outer conductor on your coax might be picking up local noise and/or destroying the pattern of your receiving antenna. I DX the AM broadcast band with whatever antennas I can fit into my su

Topband: Top Band Receive

2012-06-16 Thread John Harden
Most people do not have room for beverages... I have tried all of the compromise antennas for 160 including Ewe's, K9AY, short beverages, low dipoles, etc. To me it was an exercise in futility... Go with the Hi-Z antennas. They are stellar... Triangle, 4-square or 8-circle..You cannot lose! The

Re: Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread John Langridge
I will second Bruce's comments. Re-radiated noise is almost exactly what you are describing. I started using terminated loops around 2000 and even though everyone said that the transmit antennas needed to be detuned when receiving, I was stubborn and didn't follow the advice immediately. The

Re: Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread James Rodenkirch
Tim: I laid down a Dipole On Ground (DOG antenna) - it ended up at just right at 150' (two 75' sections) as indicated by an MFJ-259 analyzer I used that says it's spot on at 1.2:1! Compared to my 43' vertical, noise levels are down at least 2 S units - something to consider, when space is limit

Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread Bruce
Tim, Your receiving antennas may be picking up re-radiation, of noise and signals, from the transmitting antenna. Try detuning the TX antenna while receiving. (If best receiving on the loop is with the null toward the TX antenna, it is a indication.) 73 Bruce-K1FZ I have tried pennants and

Re: Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
Why don't you try a 150' BOG? I know a guy in Maryland who has one only 140' long, and he hears DX on it on 160 that he doesn't on his inverted-L. Probably better than a BOG is a Slinky Beverage. 73, Mike http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html ___

Re: Topband: Stew Perry, Summer Edition, less than 24 hours away!

2012-06-16 Thread Mike Waters
That site looks interesting, but all the little colored hollow squares scattered all over the map confused me. I thought they were lightning strikes, but from what I can tell, they are simply the locations of different types of sensors. I wish there was a way to disable their display and show only

Topband: Receiving loops

2012-06-16 Thread Shoppa, Tim
I want to try a new receiving antenna for the summer Stew Perry. Last winter was my first foray onto 160M and I really felt like an alligator. I could work everyone I could hear, with just 100W. I think that means I need a better receive antenna. If you look at my score in the winter Stew Perry

Topband: Is 9M0L the same as 1S?

2012-06-16 Thread allan1
Thank you to all those that responded to my query. I am very glad that it is as it means another country!! 73" Allan W2TN ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK