Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
From the Virgin Islands they are 59+ on my NW Beverage and weak on my North and West Beverage. I know that is probably not much help but I send the information along for what its worth. Like Merv said the strongest is 3501.6. I am listening to a NA pile up on 3525.5 calling 5J0R and the carr

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Merv Schweigert
Can hear them here in KH6 land, at least the 3500.9 and 3501.6. the 3503.1 is there also but weak, strongest is 3501.6 antenna to broad to pin point any true direction, but its coming from the "east" to north east for sure. Merv K9FD/KH6 The signals on 3501.6 and 3503.1 are both SE of me (nor

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread K4SAV
The signals on 3501.6 and 3503.1 are both SE of me (north Alabama) but I can't locate the direction any closer than that with only a four direction receiving antenna. They are very strong, S9+5 to S9+10, same on either a low dipole or a vertical. They were also that strong even a few hours be

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread W2PM
Seems like it is south of me in NNJ as well as its nill on my NE flag and s4 on the SW flag. Sent from my iPad On Nov 1, 2013, at 22:37, Don Kirk wrote: > Oops, I compensated for true north backwards on my last report. Therefore > I should have said the signal is 130 degrees from my location

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Don Kirk
Oops, I compensated for true north backwards on my last report. Therefore I should have said the signal is 130 degrees from my location just NE of Indianapolis (130 degrees True heading which is very close to the 128 deg number I said this morning). Don On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Don Kirk

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Don Kirk
Having more time this evening I went to an open field with two different portable DF antenna systems (shielded loop, and terminated flag), and I'm now going to say the signal is 140 degrees from my location just NE of Indianapolis (140 degrees True heading). Don (wd8dsb) On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at

Topband: Fw: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Bruce
Possibly someone with the BC-348Q modification- "wrap a wire around the osc. tube"- 915KHZ http://forums.qrz.com/archive/index.php/t-285419.html 73 Bruce-K1FZ http://www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html Thanks- got correction Jeff. - Original Message - From: "Charlie Cunningham" T

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread mikefurrey
Or look for the North Star at night. -- From: "Mike Waters" Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:21 PM To: "topband" Subject: Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW Or a compass laying on a camera tripod, and an up-to-date magnetic declination m

Re: Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Bruce
1830 signal came up strong a few times, and despite erratic QSB it has modulation sonding like a AM braodcast radio station. 73 Bruce-K1FZ www.qsl.net/k1fz/beverageantennanotes.html - Original Message - From: "Roger D Johnson" To: "Top Band Reflector" Sent: Friday, November 01, 20

Topband: Fw: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Bruce
1:24 PM Hearing the weak CW signal in Belfast, ME with severe QSB on my South Delta RX ANT. Unable to hear it on other antennas pointed other general directions. Bruce-K1FZ www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html - Original Message - From: "Roger D Johnson" To: Sent: Friday, November

Re: Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Bill Stewart
Yep - Original Message - From: "Charlie Cunningham" To: "Bill Stewart" Cc: "Top Band Reflector" , "Roger D Johnson" Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 12:52:18 PM Subject: RE: Topband: TEST on 1830 Smithfield, NC? -Original Message- From: Bill Stewart [mailto:cw...@embarqmail.com

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Grant Saviers
How about a compass and declination map? A bit simpler & good enough +/- 2 degrees. http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/WMM/image.shtml The standard for course plots on nautical charts is the letter "T" for true or "M" for magnetic after the degrees number and then an arrow to indicate for which

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Mike Waters
Or a compass laying on a camera tripod, and an up-to-date magnetic declination map (Google it). 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Charlie Cunningham < charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > ... by using a solar determination of true North. > The way that I do it for my a

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Hi, Don Well, we can improve on that by using a solar determination of true North. The way that I do it for my antenna arrays is: 1.0 Use a weather site to determine local sunrise and sunset times for your location on the day that you are going to make the determination. 2.0 Split the differe

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Tom W8JI
OK, while we are on the topic another very big factor to think about is magnetic north vs. true north (I have tried to not bring this up in the past). I don't expect any response to this, but this has always been in the back of my mind and wonder what headings are really being reported (what is t

Re: Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Smithfield, NC? -Original Message- From: Bill Stewart [mailto:cw...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:46 PM To: Charlie Cunningham Cc: Top Band Reflector; Roger D Johnson Subject: Re: Topband: TEST on 1830 Hi Charlie, I wasn't sure...subj. sorta sounded like he might be

Re: Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Bill Stewart
Hi Charlie, I wasn't sure...subj. sorta sounded like he might be testing. I'm still hearing the 80m sigs here near Smithfield. Much weaker now, but readable. No dir. antennas so can't add to the thread..but interesting reading. 73 de Bill K4JYS - Original Message - From: "Charlie Cunningh

Re: Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Roger D Johnson
You're correct, Charlie. Someone sending TEST in slow CW for last couple of days. It's loudest on my south Beverage. 73, Roger On 11/1/2013 11:23 AM, Charlie Cunningham wrote: Don't think Roger was testing. I think he was reporting a signal he was hearing from the south of ME. Charlie, K4OTV

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread nekvter
Tim, I've been hearing these carriers for several days and confirmed with W8VVG and K4IQJ yesterday that they aren't "ghosts" in my machine. I sent the info we gathered to the ARRL (K0BOG), who will enlist their Official Observers to track them down. 73 -- Brian K1LI -

Re: Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Don't think Roger was testing. I think he was reporting a signal he was hearing from the south of ME. Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Stewart Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:16 PM To: Roger D Johnson Cc: Top Band

Re: Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Bill Stewart
Roger, if you are testing you might use the reverse beacon network. Make several CW CQ calls and maybe a 'skimmer' will hear you...neat hi tech way to see if one is getting out.. gives sig. strength rprt too. 73 de Bill K4JYS - Original Message - From: "Roger D Johnson" To: "Top Band Ref

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Don Kirk
OK, while we are on the topic another very big factor to think about is magnetic north vs. true north (I have tried to not bring this up in the past). I don't expect any response to this, but this has always been in the back of my mind and wonder what headings are really being reported (what is th

Topband: TEST on 1830

2013-11-01 Thread Roger D Johnson
Anyone else hearing this? It's south from Maine. 73, Roger -- Remember the Liberty (AGTR-5) http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/ http://www.gtr5.com/ _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Tom W8JI
My resolution is not as good as some people here, either. But where there's a will, there's often a way. :-) Many of the headings are misleading. Having been through this before several times, much of the data is always grossly overstated.It is common to exaggerate ability to determine direc

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Eric Rosenberg
Funny that this should come up. My daughter Lina is part of the crew on the SSV Corwith Cramer, sailing (135ft, 2-master) that left Woods Hole, MA on October 13, sailing due south to Bequia (the Grenadines) and finishing up in St. Croix. This is a scientific (i.e., research) vessel --Lina's and e

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Thanks, Gary and Mike Well, with my small lot, about all I can do is be envious!! :-) 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:05 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topb

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Mike Waters
Charlie, My resolution is not as good as some people here, either. But where there's a will, there's often a way. :-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Charlie Cunningham < charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > I'm impressed with the directional resolution available to

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Gary Smith
Charlie, mine's nowhere as good as the 8 element array they offer and others here have far better antennae than I. This offending signal is just stronger from my south and the HI-Z antennas do work as advertised. I'm someday going to get their 8 element array. Unfortunately I can't add to my ex

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Thanks, Gary Well, there are many vessels from Japan, Korea, US and Canada (and others) that operate out there! Yes, unfortunate that we have intruders in our bands! 73, Charlie,K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Thanks for the information, Gary! I'm impressed with and envious of your directional resolution capability! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 5:35 AM To: Topband@contesting.co

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Thanks for that link, Frank! Very enlightening and interesting!! It does seem to fit with my speculation that those carriers might be from buoys! I'm impressed with the directional resolution available to some folks on this reflector! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [

Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Bruce
I noticed the day after the contest, all the fish net beacons on 160 were missing. Got wondering if contest QRM had anything to do with it. coincidence ? The 2nd day after, a couple, but not all came back. 73 Bruce-K1FZ www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html - Original Message - From:

Topband: Steady carrier on 80 cw

2013-11-01 Thread Larry
There is a carrier on 1749.3 in the same direction about 150 degrees from Michigan. Harmonics anyone. _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Don Kirk
I'm mapping the data, but nothing to hang my hat on at this time. The data from Steve (KK7UV) does not intersect any of the other reports (odd). A heading from W8JI or AA1K would be very helpful. Don (wd8dsb) On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Mike Waters wrote: > It's mostly S8 on my SE 580' B

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Mike Waters
Clarification: my "NE" Beverage is actually about 55 degrees. (The SE Bev is 135 degrees.) On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Mike Waters wrote: > It's mostly S8 on my SE 580' Beverage here in SW Missouri. Rather fast QSB > down to S6. > > On the NE 580' Bev, mostly S3 to S6, but I just saw the sig

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Mike Waters
It's mostly S8 on my SE 580' Beverage here in SW Missouri. Rather fast QSB down to S6. On the NE 580' Bev, mostly S3 to S6, but I just saw the signal about equal on both antennas. 73, Mike www,w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Don Kirk
Approximately 128 deg from WD8DSB (EM69) using small DF loop. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Mike Waters wrote: > A steady carrier from fish net beacons doesn't fit the pattern of the ones > everyone has heard on 160. That would deplete the batteries fairly quickly. > All the ones I know of se

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Mike Waters
A steady carrier from fish net beacons doesn't fit the pattern of the ones everyone has heard on 160. That would deplete the batteries fairly quickly. All the ones I know of send a short carrier and a CW ID followed by a long period of silence. That lets them be unattended for several days. If it

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Steve Flood
Carriers here this morning are at 3500.85 khz 3501.58 khz 3503.16 khz Using nulls from my 8-direction K9AY loop, I put the signal between 135 and 150 degrees from DN36. If that helps at all, Steve, KK7UV _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW

2013-11-01 Thread Gary Smith
I'm using a HI-Z triangular array. Both of these signals are nulled significantly due north and are loudest due south not quite as loud SW & SE from here. > BTW, Gary - how are you measuring direction on 80m? > > -Original Message- > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Gary Smith
Yes, that's what I was thinking too. The link Frank posted mentions continuous operation which is something I hadn't experienced on 160. What is amazing to me is how loud their signals are compared to other signals I hear on the band. I understand its their saltwater location but that's pretty