Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Donald Chester
I think you're being overly picky. The 75-ohm cable would be at worst a 1.5:1 mismatch. Probably a fraction of a dB loss at most, particularly with foam type hard line. If you have a source of good, low-loss 75-ohm coax that will safely handle the power you intend to run, and which will hold up

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/13/2014 12:17 PM, Donald Chester wrote: I think you're being overly picky. The 75-ohm cable would be at worst a 1.5:1 mismatch. Probably a fraction of a dB loss at most, particularly with foam type hard line. If you have a source of good, low-loss 75-ohm coax that will safely handle the

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread mstangelo
Don, You bring up some good points. I got a couple of hundred feet of Flooded Commscope 75 ohm RG-11 type at a good proce. I don't have the part number handy. I've been very happy with it at 100 watts. I'm thinking of running 500 watts. The center conductor is copper clad steel. I'm concerned

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread mstangelo
Frank, That is true but a 1/2 wavelenght at 160 meters is quite long, about 260 feet; shorter with the velocity factor. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: donov...@starpower.net To: topband@contesting.com Cc: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:01:13 - (UTC)

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Carl
Ive been using that CATV RG-11 since the late 70's as jumpers to the hardline from wire antennas, in the house, and as phasing lines for 160 and 80M verticals. Never a hint of heat at 1200W but someone with a 3CX15000 might have a different opinion. Measured loss at 2 MHz was .17dB/100'

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Carl
For monoband use, use an asynchronous transformer to go to 50 Ohms if you or the equipment is that fussy. http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/matching.html Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: donov...@starpower.net To: topband@contesting.com Cc: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Sent: Friday,

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread mstangelo
All, I'll try out the CATV RG-11 before spending my money on 50 ohm coax. It will also save me the touble of digging another trench. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com To: mstang...@comcast.net, Donald Chester k4...@hotmail.com Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent:

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread James Wolf
This does however, slightly narrow the bandwidth of the antenna if the coax loss is small because as you move away from the perfect 1/2 wave point the coax will start to show SWR. For monobanders this usually isn't a problem, but it may be for some tribanders. This will also work on all the

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Tom W8JI
You bring up some good points. I got a couple of hundred feet of Flooded Commscope 75 ohm RG-11 type at a good proce. I don't have the part number handy. I've been very happy with it at 100 watts. I'm thinking of running 500 watts. The center conductor is copper clad steel. I'm concerned about

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/13/2014 9:51 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: The worse case SWR of a 50 ohm system with 75 ohm cable isn't 1.5:1 when normalized to 50 ohms. It is 2.25:1. 1.5*1.5 = 2.25 Wrong. If you're using 75 ohm line, it's a 75 ohm system -- the system impedance is the line impedance. It's the the match of the