Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread terry burge
Hi guys and gals, Well, to make a long story short my Rig Experts AA-170 has quite working. Looks normal but a 56 ohm resistor at the end of the 75 ohm coax reads infinite. On the MFJ-259b it reads 56 ohms. Check SWR and the MFJ reads 7.499.2 Mhz 1.1:1 SWR R=56/57 ohms X=0. Coax is 55' 4 3/8"

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread David Olean
I used a return loss bridge and measured a TEE fitting with a good 50 ohm load on one port the length of cable on the other side. The antenna analyzer will read a perfect 50 ohm match when the cable is 1/2 wavelength long. If the cable is an open quarter wave, your analyzer will show high VSWR

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread terry burge
Good point Wes. I will see if I can find a decent value of resistor. My Rig Experts AA-170 was purchased because I did not trust the readings my MFJ-259b was giving me while working on my hytower. Pretty penny for these antenna analyzers. But I will bet if it won't do the stub frequency checks i

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread Wes Stewart
Since he said the coax was 75-ohm, a 75-ohm termination would be better. On 6/9/2018 5:07 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: As a sanity check, terminate the coax with a 50 ohm resistor and verify that you have good coax.  Flat line at 1:1 SWR, etc. Rick N6RK On 6/9/2018 4:57 PM, terry burge

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
As a sanity check, terminate the coax with a 50 ohm resistor and verify that you have good coax. Flat line at 1:1 SWR, etc. Rick N6RK On 6/9/2018 4:57 PM, terry burge wrote: I don't know what is wrong here but I keep getting in this situation where my typing starts running back over my writin

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread terry burge
I don't know what is wrong here but I keep getting in this situation where my typing starts running back over my writing. I will try again to reply. Joel, I have tried all that the manual says without success. All I see is the horizontal solid and dashed lines of R and X. No indication of a re

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread Joel Harrison
Hi Terry, I replaced the 1/4 lines on my 80 meter 4 square this past fall and used my AA-170 to set the length with no problem. Just select "all" for the mode and set the freq you're aiming for and then trim the line until X equals zero with the far end open. Should work fine. I always calculate

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread Ed Hughes
Ok Terry, well 1/2 wave at 7234kc will = 1/4 wave at 3617kc, so trim until u get near 7500kc and cut all lines that length and u should be ok. Back in the 1980s when I built my 4 square, I used a noise bridge to build my lines. Ed KG4W On 6/9/2018 5:19 PM, terry burge wrote: Hi Ed, Unfortun

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread terry burge
Hi Ed, Unfortunately I don't get any indication per the Rig Experts manual with an open. The R/X just does not get any indication from 1982Khz all the way to 10,500+ KHz. On my MFJ-259B (old one) with a short I get at 7.234 Mhz (or about) R=1 and X=0. Suspect the R indicates the short of course

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread Ed Hughes
Hi Terry, see page 16 of this site https://www.rigexpert.com/files/manuals/aa170/aa-170-manual.pdf when looking for a 1/4 wave, leave the far end of the coax under test open. when looking for a 1/2 wave, short the far end of the coax under test. Your 57'7" pc of  would be 1/4 wave at 3750 if the

Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-09 Thread terry burge
Hi guys and gals, I have got DX Engineering 75 ohm foam coax to make the stubs/feeders for my Comtek 80 meter 4-Square and am finding some difficulty. Neither my MFJ-259B nor my Rig Experts AA-170 seem to indicate a 1/2 WL at 7500 KHz or a 1/4 WL at 3750 KHz? Or any frequency up or down from t