Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
An L network with a coil in series and a 500pf variable to ground might do the trick. You impedance of the antenna is to low and you need to bring it up. You can also try extending the top hat wires by 20' each and see what difference that makes. Herb, KV4FZ On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM Ash

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Don Kirk
> > Herb (KV4FZ) mentioned an L network, and that is what I always use. Very > simple, and you just plug you're measured complex impedance values (at the > frequency you want to be resonant) into one of the many online L network > calculators to determine the amount of inductance and capacitance r

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Clive GM3POI
What I don't understand is why would you use more components than needed. Why a capacitor (possibly vacuum). What is wrong in using a hairpin which also DC shorts the vertical to ground. A combination of hairpin size and top loading will give you 1:1 at your favourite 1.825 or anywhere else. Perha

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Tim Shoppa
Your suggestion of a hairpin is a high-pass. Herb's suggestion for a series-L shunt-C L-network is a low-pass. Sometimes you might prefer one over the other. Or choice might be entirely driven by parts on hand. I happen to have some big old variable capacitors so all my tuners use them. But a yo

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 9/18/2018 4:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: 2) use a 4:1 auto-transformer at the feed point - your antenna    analyzer says the real impedance is about 15 Ohms.  A 4:1    auto-transformer will get the SWR down to about 1.2:1. Generally speaking, you will get a wider bandwidth with a auto

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Jean-Paul Albert via Topband
f6aoj.ao-journal.com and then « tuning short vertical » , menu left side. It could help you to match your antenna. 73 to all. F6FYA / Jean-Paul Envoyé de mon iPad > Le 19 sept. 2018 à 20:41, Tim Shoppa a écrit : > > Your suggestion of a hairpin is a high-pass. Herb's suggestion for a > se

Topband: Multiple verticals one feed-point.

2018-09-19 Thread Gary Smith
My HF antennas are all wire verticals; 20M vertical, 30M vertical, 40M vertical, 80 INV-V & 160 sloper. Using the Ameritron remote coax switch it allows me to select one of these antennas and this allows a match to everything from 160-6 except for 60 meters which I don't use anyway. All are

Re: Topband: Multiple verticals one feed-point.

2018-09-19 Thread Clive GM3POI
Gary as long as the verticals are isolated above ground when not switched in. You should be ok. 73 Clive GM3POI -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: 19 September 2018 20:35 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Multip

Re: Topband: Multiple verticals one feed-point.

2018-09-19 Thread Joel Gray
Gary, I am not sure about all bands, but I have done it with 3 bands. I run my 160 inverted L, a vertical for 80 and a vertical for 40 all off of the same feedline and ground radial system. At least for these three bands, they don't have a lot of interaction. My 4NEC2 model showed this, and my e

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Grant Saviers
Several suggestions, some already mentioned - Although your swr plot shows you are in the ballpark for resonance, the feedpoint resistance is very low, as mentioned likely 12 to 20 ohms.  A transmission line transformer stepdown will help a lot.  4:1 likely the best choice.  If parts are hard

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Wes Stewart
I suspect your data.  For a 0.1 lambda vertical, the radiation resistance will be quite low particularly with sloping loading wires and with your radial system the ground loss will be high.  Additionally, I think the top loading is insufficient to achieve resonance.  Yet you seem to have it.  Yo

Re: Topband: Toploaded vertical - SWR

2018-09-19 Thread Wes N7WS
Me too. But I wasn't ready to present them yet. I'm away from home at the moment. Wes Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Roger D Johnson wrote: > > I did a quick model in EZNEC and came up with very different values. > > 73, Roger > > >> On 9/19/2018 6:53 PM, Wes Stewart w