Re: Topband: Drones for antenna installation?

2019-09-01 Thread Grant Saviers
The specs are for a maximum pressure at a specified temperature, usually 72 degrees F. PVC softens with temperature so the ratings degrade with temperature. It is usually not used for hot water service. The specs say "Not rated for 140 degrees F". One experience is that sch 40 fittings were

Re: Topband: Drones for antenna installation?

2019-09-01 Thread donroden
It looks ugly, but schedule 80 wrapped in many layers of duct tape will launch your projectile of choice with "relative" safety. Don W4DNR Quoting David G4FTC : Thanks for the data on the sch 80 pipe - I assume that the 300+ psi figures are working pressures which should give a good mar

Re: Topband: Drones for antenna installation?

2019-09-01 Thread Gary Smith
Grant is exactly right about the cold & knocking it around. Last winter I was out in freezing weather and bumped the end into a rock. The PVC broke in the valve where the PVC is threaded in. I had to dremel two opposing slots in the broken piece and wedge a solid piece of metal in so I could

Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread N4ZR
The other day a ham friend suggested using a coil ("hairpin") to match the low impedance of a well-radialed inverted L to 50-ohm coax.  This struck me as a potentially-attractive alternative to a series vacuum capacitor, but I don't know enough to evaluate it. Thoughts? -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check

Re: Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread FZ Bruce
The reason to use a series capacitor is to electrically lengthen the antenna wire, driving the high current point up the vertical section, for more efficiency. The capacitor electrically shortened the antenna to the 160 meter band.. With the right amount added wire and capacitor the feed point woul

Re: Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread Frank Krozel
Wasn’t that called a gamma match in the past? -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com > On Sep 1, 2019, at 1:46 PM, N4ZR wrote: > > The other day a ham friend suggested using a coil ("hairpin") to match the > low impedance of a well-radialed inverted L to 50-ohm coax. This struck me > as a

Re: Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread Clive GM3POI
Simple, resonate the vertical at about 1.9mhz. Then add the inductance across the feed point which may well be in the 2-3 micro Henry region. But use a variable L and slightly alter the L or top loading to get the match where it's wanted. I have used a hairpin match and a T Vertical for a numbe

Re: Topband: Drones for antenna installation?

2019-09-01 Thread Ed Sawyer
Interesting discussion on shooting antenna wires in trees. I have used a bow and arrow for 25 years. Cheap practice bow (good for trees up to 100ft) and practice arrows with an open tip. I fill the tip with a few nuts (ie nuts and bolts nuts) and tape the end shut which gives just a bit of

Re: Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread Wes
You mean physically lengthen the wire. Unfortunately, the added horizontal radiation may defeat the intended purpose.  Ir pays to model. Wes  N7WS On 9/1/2019 12:07 PM, FZ Bruce wrote: The reason to use a series capacitor is to electrically lengthen the antenna wire, driving the high current

Re: Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread Wes
No. Wes  N7WS On 9/1/2019 11:51 AM, Frank Krozel wrote: Wasn’t that called a gamma match in the past? -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread Tim Shoppa
Pete, broadly in matching theory, a series-capacitor match can often be replaced with a series L and shunt C to ground. Often the topology will be chosen on component value reasonableness and convenience of what's grounded where. Other times you might have a strong preference for a matching networ

Re: Topband: Drones for antenna installation?

2019-09-01 Thread Gary Smith
Ed, The reason I now only use the spud is I have no single easy tree to get over, it's a forest I have to shoot into, and the arrow is too light to bring itself down through the branches with a fishing line attached. I first used slingshots & the lead weight was hard to find in the woods.

Topband: inverted l

2019-09-01 Thread doug dietz
Guys Will a invereted L a quarter wave length resonate at a given frequency without a matching network? Doug wd8z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Hairpin match to inverted L?

2019-09-01 Thread Wes
That's exactly what I do; shorten the radiator to create a capacitive feedpoint Z and shunt that with inductance to make a resonant impedance step-up at the desired frequency. That said, my original loading wire was some stranded super flexible bare copper 12 AWG that I pickup up at a swap mee

Re: Topband: inverted l

2019-09-01 Thread Wes
Anything will resonate at some frequency.  The question should be will it be a good match at the desired frequency. Wes  N7WS On 9/1/2019 4:02 PM, doug dietz wrote: Guys Will a invereted L a quarter wave length resonate at a given frequency without a matching network? Doug wd8z Sent from Mail

Re: Topband: inverted l

2019-09-01 Thread K9FD
Matching network does not resonate the antenna Guys Will a invereted L a quarter wave length resonate at a given frequency without a matching network? Doug wd8z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector __

Re: Topband: inverted l

2019-09-01 Thread Michael Walker
Hi Doug Ignore those splitting hairs. :) Yes, and inverted L will represent a load that should work for your radio without any additional tuners (should). I run an inverted L right up the side of an 80 ft pine tree and then I have 4 elevated radials. 2 of those radials parallel a fence that su