Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Wes
I guess that I'm not among the many. I'm 78 and have been a ham for almost 62 of them.  I took up Satellite work at age 35, EME at 38, RTTY at 68 and I can't live without my SDR panadapter. By coincidence I got a handful of QSLs from the bureau today.  One was from JH7OHS for a 432 EME JT65B

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I wonder what will happen when/if we get a good solar cycle again.   People just want to use their gear.  If a mode allows it great.  Let them have fun.  No reason to think less of them for getting on the air.    Remember the good ole days when 10 meters was a blast open every where. W0MU

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Wes
CW, it's just like FT-8 but for men. N7WS On 1/10/2020 10:03 PM, kol...@rcn.com wrote: BTW, sign seen in a local traffic handlers shack back in the late '60's:"Everyone is welcome in my shack be you Ham Radio operator or Phone man."The more things change...73 Kevin K3OX _

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread kolson
BTW, sign seen in a local traffic handlers shack back in the late '60's:"Everyone is welcome in my shack be you Ham Radio operator or Phone man."The more things change...73 Kevin K3OX - Original Message - From: kol...@rcn.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 23:52:07

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below It would seem that the new digital modes have re-invigorated ham radio, at least activity wise. But if ham radio is so fragile that it cannot sustain in the face of interest in a new mode, maybe it deserves to die. I personally don't think it will, it is and has always

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread kolson
It would seem that the new digital modes have re-invigorated ham radio, at least activity wise. But if ham radio is so fragile that it cannot sustain in the face of interest in a new mode, maybe it deserves to die. I personally don't think it will, it is and has always been a big tent...73,

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Brian Moran via Topband
"Stew Perry Next Generation"  or "Ess Pee En Gee" Something for everyone to like and not like in that title.-Brian N9ADG On Friday, January 10, 2020, 6:23:12 PM PST, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: FT4 is not allocated on 160 for some reason.  If the contest were to use Grids then

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Wes
FT-8 and RTTY while both using radios hooked to computers, (unless you use a Model 28) are significantly different in practice. I'm not an RTTY fanatic but I do have 255 countries confirmed and a DXCC certificate that says "RTTY" on it.  I won't repeat how FT-8 is used but will point out that

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
FT4 is not allocated on 160 for some reason.  If the contest were to use Grids then supporting a new contest should be quite simple. W0MU On 1/10/2020 7:11 PM, DXer wrote: >>I thought  there  was a contest  version  of  FT-8  coming out  soon ?   I  forget  what  it  was to  be  labeled  as.

Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread DXer
>>I thought there was a contest version of FT-8 coming out soon ? I forget what it was to be labeled as. The current version of WSJT-X supports the following contests: NA VHF Contest; EU VHF Contest; ARRL Field Day, technically not a contest; RTTY Roundup. To activate

Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Jim Thomson
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:38:03 -0400 From: Herbert Schoenbohm To: TopBand List , topband-ow...@contesting.com Subject: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
I just joined Mike. Thanks Herb, KV4FZ On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:21 PM Mike Waters wrote: > The brand new https://groups.io/g/160Digital group should be good for > that, Herb. Have you joined yet? > > 73, Mike > W0BTU > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 6:04 PM Herbert Schoenbohm < >

Re: Topband: New Group for Topband Digital.

2020-01-10 Thread Mike Waters
Hi Vince, Not on my watch! :-) Rest assured, one of us moderators there will take appropriate action against any such nonsense. First-time posts there first have to be approved by a moderator. And I think that I saw a Ban button. ;-) There is a new section there 'What requirements for a good

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband.

2020-01-10 Thread donroden
Lets just do it over the internet and say we did. Don W4DNR Quoting DXer : 1) you need a modern(relatively new)station _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Martin Kratoska
Quite few happy experimenters, lots of disgusted DXers. 73, Martin, OK1RR _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband.

2020-01-10 Thread DXer
>>1) you need a modern(relatively new)station How modern? Until getting an IC-7300 I used an IC-718. Before getting a Signalink USB interface to go with it, I used dubbing cables between the radio and the computer. Took some 'skill' not to TX garbage with that setup. Don't tell me now that

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Mike Waters
The brand new https://groups.io/g/160Digital group should be good for that, Herb. Have you joined yet? 73, Mike W0BTU On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 6:04 PM Herbert Schoenbohm < herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think the huge FT-8 community would come up with something quickly. The > potential

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
I think the huge FT-8 community would come up with something quickly. The potential for a very popular contest is big. Maybe a website would eventually be established to aid in the process such as FT-8 160 meter contesting replete with a checklist of possible preferences, Let us just do it!

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband.

2020-01-10 Thread dj7ww
1) you need a modern(relatively new)station 6) you like to be bored by doing ham radio 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+dj7ww=t-online...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of DXer Sent: Samstag, 11. Januar 2020 00:12 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband:

Topband: New Group for Topband Digital.

2020-01-10 Thread DXer
It's unfortunate that it has come to this, but I commend your initiative. That said, you can bet money that some of the same critics will join the new list to stir the pot there as well. 73 de Vince, VA3VF _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband

Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband.

2020-01-10 Thread DXer
The FT8 comet is back: 1) It's still legal; 2) It's still not mandatory to use it; 3) It only 'wastes' up to 3kHz on each band; 4) Lots of people are having fun with it. . . . I can think of so many of Yoga Bera's sayings to reply to the negative reactions. As for an FT8 contest, they are

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Glenn Wyant
Hans, Do you ever get away from presenting all of us with your " negative ham radio " comments in regards to FT8 ? I dont think I have ever seen any comments from yourself that were actually promoting the hobby. Glenn VA3DX - Original Message - From: "Hans Hjelmström" To: "W0MU

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Cecil
Don’t let him discourage you Herb, I think an FT8 contest would be fun. We can discuss it further but won’t do it here… Cecil K5DL Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Steef PA2A Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 4:10 PM To: topband@contesting.com; herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Steef PA2A
Herb, the stupid FT8 mode should be ignored by hams owning more than 2 braincells. 73s Steef PA2A I know the purists will flame me for this but look at the frequency conservation this would present and look at the activity statistics for only the past couple of hours, AIf the contest was

Topband: New Group for Topband Digital

2020-01-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
In the interest of keeping the peace here on this reflector a new group has been created for those interested in Topband Digital.  N6TR the long time owner/moderator has given his blessing on the new group. If you are interested in Topband and Digital come join the group at

Topband: Fwd: Top Band Single Sideband Net

2020-01-10 Thread Anthony Scandurra via Topband
Forwarding with permission from K3SSS. Please reply directly to Peter. 73, Tony K4QE Begin forwarded message: > Cleaning out an old box, and underneath the Canal Zone and Ivory Coast QSLs, > I found a typed paper membership roster of the Top Band Single Sideband Net, > dated Nov 9, 1977. >

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Cecil
Stealth derogatory expressions…that’s a new approach. Cecil K5DL Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jean-Paul Albert via Topband Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 3:42 PM To: W0MU Mike Fatchett Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband Humm, it

Re: Topband: de n7dd

2020-01-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Issues of a fixed capacitor as seen in this thread have been a similar problem for a network two-banding an 160m Inv L over FCP. k2av.com has a section on this problem how to do 500 with three 170 pf barrel style HEC caps. The section also has links to HEC reference material on how to derate

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Jean-Paul Albert via Topband
Humm, it should be fun... You can be in the contest and same time behind barbecue... Are remote stations allowed ? 73´s Jean-Paul F6FYA en direct depuis son iPad. > Le 10 janv. 2020 à 21:40, W0MU Mike Fatchett a écrit : > > The FT8 DMC Digital Mode Club on Facebook has nearly 10,000

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Wes
Michael publishes a Club Log Summary of DX Activity each week. If you look at the Most Active Modes, you will take away that FT8 is the predominate mode.  That said, if you drill down and look at the statistics for DXpeditions, you can see many where CW still prevails.by a significant margin. 

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The FT8 DMC   Digital Mode Club on Facebook has nearly 10,000 members. On 1/10/2020 1:30 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: Curious. If it is not Ham Radio then why is my K3 transmitting and receiving the signals? Hmmm.  I guess RTTY is not ham radio either. On 1/10/2020 12:12 PM, Hans Hjelmström

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Curious.  If it is not Ham Radio then why is my K3 transmitting and receiving the signals? Hmmm.  I guess RTTY is not ham radio either. On 1/10/2020 12:12 PM, Hans Hjelmström wrote: And its even not Ham radio.Its fake PC Computer business. Sorry.Its the end of Ham radio Hans SM6CVX 10 jan

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread dj7ww
No wonder, imagine how many robots are active on all bands in parallel per station. -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+dj7ww=t-online...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett 1.5 million hits for FT8? WOW! _ Searchable Archives:

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread fortra
Hi guys, as a former radio officer and a ham for 51 years, i firmly belive, that hearing is beliving.. Not the other way around, seeing is beliving... We, hams has last word, ear, eye on modes... Nermin S58DX -Izvorno sporočilo- From: Cecil Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:02 PM To:

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Cecil
Some international diplomacy? Save it! K5DL Sent from my iPad > On Jan 10, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Hans Hjelmström wrote: > > And its even not Ham radio.Its fake PC Computer business. > Sorry.Its the end of Ham radio > Hans SM6CVX > > >> 10 jan 2020 kl. 20:06 skrev W0MU Mike Fatchett : >> >>

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Mike Waters
Why not? I think that an FT8 contest would be a good experiment, at least. It needs a sponsor(s) and some tentative rules. Any suggestions? 73, Mike W0BTU On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 12:38 PM Herbert Schoenbohm < herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > I know the purists will flame me for this but

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Mike Waters
This, sir, is not helpful. Our moderator has explicitly stated that negative comments about FT8 are not allowed. Respectfully, Mike W0BTU On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 1:12 PM Hans Hjelmström wrote: > And its even not Ham radio.Its fake PC Computer business. > Sorry.Its the end of Ham radio > Hans

Re: Topband: de n7dd

2020-01-10 Thread Mike Waters
An air variable is exactly what I was thinking, Dave. My 160m inverted-L tuner uses just two air variables. I padded the HV variable with a small 100 pf N1500 (or two) doorknob with no problem. I use those same doorknobs as padders in my HB legal-limit amplifier, but they do cause the tuning to

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Michael Walker
Yes, the success is staggering. There are graphs that show the FT8 usage and I would paste it into the body of the email, but I can't. Clublog published it somewhere. It shows a deep decline on CW and a minor decline on SSB and this was 2 years ago.

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Hans Hjelmström
And its even not Ham radio.Its fake PC Computer business. Sorry.Its the end of Ham radio Hans SM6CVX > 10 jan 2020 kl. 20:06 skrev W0MU Mike Fatchett : > > 1.5 million hits for FT8? WOW! > > On 1/10/2020 11:38 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: >> I know the purists will flame me for this but look

Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
1.5 million hits for FT8? WOW! On 1/10/2020 11:38 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: I know the purists will flame me for this but look at the frequency conservation this would present and look at the activity statistics for only the past couple of hours, AIf the contest was designed well

Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

2020-01-10 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
I know the purists will flame me for this but look at the frequency conservation this would present and look at the activity statistics for only the past couple of hours, AIf the contest was designed well sub-channels could be recommended for the various continents as Stew Perry use to urge for

Re: Topband: Musings on multiple 160m QSOs

2020-01-10 Thread Victor Goncharsky via Topband
I agree as well. The problem for those chasing new ones is sometimes the fact that folks who already worked, confirmed the entity that was accepted by DXCC Desk are still calling and often stealing the chance from their fellow amateurs who need that DX. Generally they have the strongest