Re: Topband: Radials on ground v FCP

2022-01-08 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Frank, It was definitely Cleveland. Got my abbreviations wrong after 60 years. :) Thanks, Jim On 1/8/2022 12:10 PM, Frank W3LPL wrote: Hi Jim, Didn't Carl Smith run CIE (Cleveland Institute of Electronics) and not CREI (Capitol Radio Engineering Institute)? 73 Frank W3LPL - Original

Re: Topband: Radials on ground v FCP

2022-01-08 Thread Wes
On 1/8/2022 8:27 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Topband wrote: Rob I recall a discussion on here some years ago which proposed that, whilst being an amazing antenna for top band, if you could achieve it, the broadcast model was not necessarily the best use of resources for amateur purposes, on the basi

Re: Topband: K9AY Loop Questions

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Ikin
Thank you Jose, Here's an earlier Ref.. R. Keen; Wireless Direction Finding and Directional Reception 1927 Page 75. Describes Heart-Shape Circuit (Societe Francaise Radio Electrique) using a two turn loop with a connexion to ground via a variable resistor. It is very much like the K9AY.

Re: Topband: Radials on ground v FCP

2022-01-08 Thread Rob Atkinson
I can't comment on the folded counterpoise because I am not familiar with it. The "broadcast model" which I take to mean 120 radials is used because in the case of a 90 degree tower on medium wave, the earth current intensity is far enough from the feed point to necessitate a higher number of radi

Re: Topband: Radials on ground v FCP

2022-01-08 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/8/2022 7:27 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Topband wrote: I recall a discussion on here some years ago which proposed that, whilst being an amazing antenna for top band, if you could achieve it, the broadcast model was not necessarily the best use of resources for amateur purposes, on the basis tha

Re: Topband: K9YC's comments on radials

2022-01-08 Thread W3HKK
I can only echo Jim's comments about mechanical issues with very thin wire. I use aluminum fence wire #17 guage, and have to coil/uncoil my radials for the mowing season. This wire works fine but tends to kink - and breaks fairly easily when uncoiling. Once Ive used up my supply, I'll be going back

Re: Topband: Radials on ground v FCP

2022-01-08 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Topband
Rob I recall a discussion on here some years ago which proposed that, whilst being an amazing antenna for top band, if you could achieve it, the broadcast model was not necessarily the best use of resources for amateur purposes, on the basis that broadcasters are mainly interested in ground wav

Re: Topband: Radials on ground

2022-01-08 Thread Rob Atkinson
For medium wave, every ham who transmits with a base excited vertical radiator should get a copy of _Radio-Electronic Transmission Fundamentals_ by B. Whitfield Griffith, Jr. 2nd ed., Noble Pub. Co., Atlanta Ga., c2000, ISBN 1884932134. 638 p. Griffith is a retired principal engineer with Contin