Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Jeremy Maris
There are many public demonstrations in Russia against Putin’s action, courageous given the political climate - see the thread below on Twitter. I go with Tree - never assume that the people support the propaganda of their leader. I was sending VY GL to UR stations, maybe I’ll send 55 VY

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread donroden
Back during the "Cold War" ( mid to late 60s- early 70s ) I talked with a lot of Russian hams on 15 meter AM. We were in agreement that our concerns were family housing, fixing our old cars, education for our children, and we couldn't understand why our countries were always at odds. We fe

Re: Topband: Ukraine, Russia, and Ham Radio

2022-02-24 Thread JHDMD
Bill, I fully concur with what you say. It should be left out of the Top Band reflector. However, I do Know Russia quite well. I spent a couple of years there in the mid 1990’s at the Medical University in St. Petersburg and learned the difficult language. In the war after 911 I served as the U

Re: Topband: Ukraine, Russia, and Ham Radio

2022-02-24 Thread Chortek, Robert L.
Hi Bill, Agree 100 percent Politics has no place here. And while also I certainly have opinions on the current topic, and many others, can you imagine what a mess this would be if we all started sharper political opinions here - even if only related to ham radio? Bob/AA6VB Robert L. Cho

Re: Topband: Ukraine, Russia, and Ham Radio

2022-02-24 Thread S57AD
Can't agree more with Bill and Tree! 73 Mirko S57AD V V čet., 24. feb. 2022 ob 19:52 je oseba William Hein napisala: > Dear Ham Friends Everywhere, > > I was the founder of the TopBand list back in the '90s and ran it for a few > years before passing the baton to W4ZV who then handed off to Tre

Re: Topband: Ukraine, Russia, and Ham Radio

2022-02-24 Thread William Hein
Forgot to add, my call is AA7XT, I was AA6TT/0 when I started TopBand and was later NT1Y. Been off the air for a few years but planning a new station in a wonderful location. 73 Bill AA7XT On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:51 AM William Hein wrote: > Dear Ham Friends Everywhere, > > I was the founder

Topband: Ukraine, Russia, and Ham Radio

2022-02-24 Thread William Hein
Dear Ham Friends Everywhere, I was the founder of the TopBand list back in the '90s and ran it for a few years before passing the baton to W4ZV who then handed off to Tree (who's done a wonderful job managing the list, bravo, Tree). I endorse 100% Tree's policy of keeping politics off of the TopB

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/24/2022 8:24 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: I have to demur. Government-to-government sanctions are one thing, but ultimately it will come down to the Russian people turning against Putin, and it's hard for me to understand why they shouldn't feel the cost of his transgressions in this as in o

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread MU 4CX250B
I completely agree with Pete's take on this issue. However, I also understand that Russian hams are technically blameless. If boycotted in the DX contest, they would thus be paying a penalty for something that is not of their doing. That said, the devil is in the details. There are 40 million peop

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Fortra
Tree, thanks for voice of wisdom. Nermin S58DX Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Tree Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 16:22 To: Pete Smith N4ZR Cc: 160 Subject: Re: Topband: Personal decision I also need to respond to this sentiment: "it's more important at this

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread marsh
Tree, Excellent post! You are the voice of reason. 73, Marsh, KA5M On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:17 AM Tree wrote: Guys - I need to step in here. This is not what ham radio people do. The Russian ham that you are pretending to punish is not the person responsible for what is happening in Ukra

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread MU 4CX250B
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 24, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: > > I have to demur. Government-to-government sanctions are one thing, but > ultimately it will come down to the Russian people turning against Putin, and > it's hard for me to understand why they shouldn't feel the cost

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I have to demur. Government-to-government sanctions are one thing, but ultimately it will come down to the Russian people turning against Putin, and it's hard for me to understand why they shouldn't feel the cost of his transgressions in this as in other areas. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the new

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Mike Smith VE9AA
Tree (et al) You are wise. When I started reading the political comments on this list, I groaned. I am not much of a politician, but even if I were, I come to ham radio to get away from all that. Throughout my life, I have always relished working folks in all countries w/o giving thought

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Stan Stockton
100% agreement with what Tree has said. 73...Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:23 AM Tree wrote: > I also need to respond to this sentiment: > > "it's more important at this moment to get the word out > to the Russian public that their leader's ruthless behavior is scorned > and despi

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Tree
I also need to respond to this sentiment: "it's more important at this moment to get the word out to the Russian public that their leader's ruthless behavior is scorned and despised by the majority of the world's people." Perhaps - but I believe Vladimir Putin really is receiving that message cle

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Tree
Guys - I need to step in here. This is not what ham radio people do. The Russian ham that you are pretending to punish is not the person responsible for what is happening in Ukraine. Think about the situation if you were a USA ham - and some other ham decided not to work you because they did not

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Yup.  Me too. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network web server at. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 2/24/2022 8:03 AM, MU 4CX250B wrote: Good move, Mark. We all know the current assault on Ukraine is not the fault of our

Re: Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread MU 4CX250B
Good move, Mark. We all know the current assault on Ukraine is not the fault of our many good Russian ham buddies, and while I know we all wish them well, it's more important at this moment to get the word out to the Russisn public that their leader's ruthless behavior is scorned and despised by th

Topband: Personal decision

2022-02-24 Thread Mpridesti via Topband
> I plan to NOT work any Russian stations during the ARRL DX SSB contest as > I object to the in unprovoked war they started. > > Ukraine hams have already shut down. Regards, Mark, K1RX _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector