Re: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m

2022-09-25 Thread Grant Saviers
One of the HFTA arrival angle charts shows the very low angles EU - PNW on 80m. These are calculated values. One way to measure arrival angles is to real time compare S/N on a vertical vs a dipole. From good modeling, the specific antennas can be "calibrated" gain vs elevation and the

Re: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m

2022-09-25 Thread Artek Manuals
Grant Having lived in both Spokane and Boston area I can validate you observation in a general way and I am now in Florida where the game still played differently again than either I am REALLY INTRIGUED by you comment "Arrival angles for 80 peak at less than 10 degrees" . How did you

Re: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m

2022-09-25 Thread Jim Brown
Excellent post, Grant, key points of which were driven home to me by O(T Topbander NI6T not long after I moved to NorCal from Chicago. It's not the miles, it's the path. 73, Jim K9YC On 9/25/2022 7:25 AM, Grant Saviers wrote: My perspective as originally a "1" in Boston and now residing near

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 237, Issue 10

2022-09-25 Thread artandkaren
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Re: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m

2022-09-25 Thread Grant Saviers
My perspective as originally a "1" in Boston and now residing near Seattle, is the nickname "suffering sevens" is well applied to my friends here in the Pacific Northwest. Simply, for the PNW, distance isn't that meaningful - it's path that matters (and latitude). What was easy in Boston at

Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m

2022-09-25 Thread Roger Kennedy
I get what you're saying Steve . . . But to me, anything over 2,000 miles I consider DX on 160m . . . considering most stations on Top Band struggle to work stations 1,000 miles away. So I still consider it an achievement to work 'Across the Pond' on Top Band, which is why it still gives me a

Re: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m: EU-NA

2022-09-25 Thread H. Rester
From the viewpoint of old Europe it´s probably "just" the atlantic ocean, what has to be passed.  Thinking, that there is basically nothing in between the two continents than waves, storms and a view ships and the signal will be then received at another part of the world, which we only knew for

Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m

2022-09-25 Thread Steve Ireland
G’day all Some food for thought. Like Roger G3YRO and others who were teenage UK radio amateurs in the 1960s/1970s I grew up radio-wise on 160m. In those days, the holy grail was to work across the Atlantic from UK/Europe. Nowadays, living in Western Australia, it seems quite funny to think